Episode 59

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Published on:

15th May 2025

Stop the Van! Discovering the Beauty of Blessings in the Chaos of Life!

We’re diving right into the juicy stuff this week—blessings, folks! Our main takeaway? You’re under zero obligation to be the same person you were five minutes ago. Yep, you heard me right! Life’s all about evolution, and we’re here to remind you that change is not only okay, it’s pretty darn essential! We’ll chat about how blessings can pop up in all kinds of unexpected places—from the moon shining bright to that random compliment from your neighbor. So grab your favorite snack, kick back, and let’s explore how we can sprinkle a little more positivity and gratitude into our daily lives. Trust me, you don't want to miss this enlightening ride!

Takeaways:

  • We’re all about breaking the mold and expanding your worldview on this podcast, so buckle up!
  • Alan Watts reminds us that you don't have to be the same person you were five minutes ago, so let's evolve!
  • Embrace the idea that blessings are everywhere and even the smallest interactions can uplift someone else's day!
  • Blessings aren't just for the religious; they’re a universal concept that can enhance anyone’s life experience!
  • Remember, you’re not defined by your past mistakes, you're a blessing in your own right!
  • A simple 'thank you' can be a powerful acknowledgment of someone else’s kindness and a way to spread blessings around!
Transcript
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Okay.

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Welcome to the Wise Guys, a podcast where we unleash the unthinkable, see things differently, and shatter the norms.

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Let's do it again.

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There we are.

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Where we unleash the unthinkable, shatter the norms to help you expand your world view.

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All right, so.

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Hi, I'm Mac the Mad Monk, your host.

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I like that.

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We started that.

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I kind of like that moniker.

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Okay.

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But with me are my co conspirators, the Wise Guys.

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We got Coach Stu, who once pinned the meaning of life in under two minutes and still had time for push ups.

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Welcome.

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Let's go, people.

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And I was there.

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I saw.

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Was amazing.

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All right, and then we got the rev.

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Imagine Mr.

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Rogers had a theology degree and a secret tattoo.

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Oh, I want to see this.

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Yeah, I know.

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We're not going to ask where it is either.

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Okay.

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These guys, they don't just think outside the box.

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They recycle it, bless it, and use it as a drum for a revival service in aisle 7 of Target.

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Welcome, guys.

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You are the fearless leader leading the charge.

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Yeah, I think you're probably right.

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I love this special.

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This is great.

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Wise guys, welcome tonight.

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It's good to have you guys.

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Good to have you.

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Hey, Mac.

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Hey, Rev.

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Hey.

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Let me say hello to all you beautiful exotic tales.

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The exotic.

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Hello.

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Hey, gang.

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All right, so I love this words of the wise tonight.

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I guess I've heard this before and I like him.

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If.

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If this is a quote by Alan Watts and if you've never heard of him or, you know, you don't know anything about him, Google him, all right?

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YouTube him.

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Because this guy is a sage.

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Everything he says is dripping with wisdom.

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I know.

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He's.

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Just listen to him.

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This guy's incredible.

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All right, so here it is.

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Words to the wise.

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You are under no obligation to be the same person you were five minutes ago.

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No obligation, gang.

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Okay?

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You don't owe it to yourself or to anybody else to be the same in a five minute period.

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I love it.

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Isn't that great?

Speaker B:

You just gave me permission to evolve, reinvent myself continuously.

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Please do.

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I want to be born again and again and again and again and again.

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Oh.

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I mean, he just.

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You know, we tend to think.

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The thing I love about this more than anything is the word obligation.

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You know, it just.

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He just sort of dispels and debunks the fact that sameness is exactly what I need, you know, for this five minutes and for the next five minutes.

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Minutes and for the next five minutes.

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I'm good.

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I'm comfortable.

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Everything's great.

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So.

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Nope, you don't owe it to anybody to be the same person you were five minutes ago.

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So think differently.

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You in the now, I love it.

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Your identity is not static.

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That's it.

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All right.

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I love it.

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All right, so let's see tonight.

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Here's what we're going to talk about.

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We're going to talk about blessings.

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Isn't that cool?

Speaker A:

That's a really great topic.

Speaker C:

You know, what I loved in our preparation, recording time was the idea that we all want this to be a blessing to somebody who's listening.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker C:

What we do here is about really touching somebody's life in a beautiful way.

Speaker C:

I hope that you.

Speaker C:

You get that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I hope you guys out there, we've been blessed already just in a pre show.

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So I know that as we go through the episode, we'll bless each other and we'll be blessed in many, many ways.

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And so we, again, that's a great point where we want you to be.

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Feel the same way.

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We hope.

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And, and we are going to talk about this other thing that says if you are, pay it forward, you know?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

I mean, that's a major part of being blessed.

Speaker A:

Right.

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So we're going to get to that.

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But I'm just giving you a little.

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I'm getting a little.

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What do you call it?

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A cheat Spoiler.

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Okay, It's a spoiler.

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Foreshadowing.

Speaker B:

Spoiler alert.

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Shadowing.

Speaker A:

All right, so let's talk about.

Speaker A:

So, and the main thing we are going to center on, but it's going to go all sorts of different places.

Speaker A:

It's a book by Matthew Fox, and again, if you've never read Matthew Fox, we encourage that.

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But he wrote a book called Original Blessing and there was so many components to it.

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So much great stuff.

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But, you know, but at the core of it, he came in that book and told all of us through that book that it's good that everything that starts the original part, whether it's creation, whether it's, you know, relationships, whatever it might be, it's an original blessing, you know, and that we're going to jump off from that point into lots of little things.

Speaker C:

So that take us returning to the core, returning to the beginning to remember.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Because it's there.

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Yeah.

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It's blessed.

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And we'll get into that.

Speaker A:

So let's talk about a couple of common blessings we might see just to set the stage.

Speaker B:

Okay, so, yeah, this one comes from numbers in the Bible and I was so excited that you put this in because, I mean, who wants to read numbers, man?

Speaker A:

I mean, yeah, once is enough for me.

Speaker C:

I'd rather read numbers than Leviticus.

Speaker B:

I just.

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I just.

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But this is.

Speaker B:

This is what God said to Moses, Right?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

And it's.

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It's about Aaron.

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Tell Aaron and his sons this is how you are to bless the Israelites.

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Right?

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

Okay, so this is what.

Speaker B:

This is what he says.

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The Lord bless you and keep you.

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The Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you.

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The Lord turn his face towards you and give you peace.

Speaker A:

That's beautiful.

Speaker A:

I mean, that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker B:

You know what was interesting when I.

Speaker B:

When I read this and this.

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So you know me a big movie buff, right.

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This was used in Braveheart.

Speaker A:

Oh, really?

Speaker B:

Yeah, it was.

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It was Uncle Argyle after William Wallace's parents die.

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And he's.

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They're at the funeral and they're speaking in Latin.

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This is the Bible.

Speaker A:

That's what he said.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker B:

But Uncle Argyle, he.

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He said it out loud.

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So when I.

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When I saw this, I had to go put that movie, and I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

This is the same exact blessing.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

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From.

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From that movie.

Speaker B:

And that's really cool.

Speaker B:

And I wanted to bring that up because we can find God everywhere.

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I mean, I find him in movies all the time.

Speaker A:

Sure.

Speaker B:

And this is, I mean, obvious because it's a.

Speaker B:

It's a biblical blessing.

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But, Yeah, I just encourage everybody out there to, if you're looking, you're going to see whatever that means for you.

Speaker A:

Yeah, sure.

Speaker A:

And I think we're going to talk a little bit more about, you know, receiving, asking for giving blessings.

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And I think if you look at this prayer, this blessing, it's just a beautiful, organic way, if you look at it, as opposed to saying, you know, we're going to choose that, you know, you get blessed particularly over somebody else and that kind of thing.

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I mean, he's just given a lot of encouragement here, you know, because the background, of course, is that Moses isn't going into the Promised Land.

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Right.

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And so now he's.

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He's.

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He's going to tell Aaron, who's his brother.

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Right.

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How to start doing worship, how to start doing, you know, their.

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Their time, their.

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Their.

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What do you want to call it?

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Their service, their ritual.

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Okay.

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So anyway, so that's a beautiful.

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See, I look at this and go, I want to live those words.

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And, you know, some of our listeners who aren't necessarily religious, we could hold that energy for the entire world.

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May life bless you.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker C:

May the light of the sun shine upon your face and your fields and your goodness.

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May the life be gracious to you.

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I want to hold that energy that everywhere I go, no matter where I'm at, I'm holding that for even my enemies, as Jesus might say.

Speaker B:

I'd say especially.

Speaker C:

Especially for your enemies.

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Make the Lord bless you.

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My enemy.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that's hard to do, but man, I think it's necessary.

Speaker A:

It's universal.

Speaker A:

Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker C:

And our master, teacher Jesus, who we're going to now quote from, told us to do that.

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Love your enemies, bless your enemies.

Speaker A:

True.

Speaker C:

This is what Jesus has to say.

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As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you.

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Now remain in my love.

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If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commands and remain in his love.

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I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that joy may be complete.

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Complete.

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My command is this.

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Love each other as I have loved you.

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And so I take that earlier blessing and say, my job, my responsibility, is to pass that blessing on to him.

Speaker A:

That's exactly right.

Speaker C:

To be the love.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

Don't just look for God to love me, be the love.

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And then I'll suddenly realize God's love has always been there.

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Aha.

Speaker A:

Could have had a V8.

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Could have had a V8.

Speaker B:

If we all start from there, I think our enemies become our friends.

Speaker C:

You read.

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You know, I teach often that Jesus said, love your enemies, and I say, you have no enemies.

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Now, that's a hard concept for the human ego to get somebody's against me.

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But if I can love enough, there's no person that cannot be transformed.

Speaker A:

There's no duality, really, is what you're saying there.

Speaker C:

I love that I can return to that space, that we belong to each other.

Speaker A:

Right, Right.

Speaker A:

And this is so organic.

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I mean, it's.

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It's just oneness.

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You know, this whole verse speaks to not duality, but oneness.

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We're all together in this, in God.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Well, you know, Marianne Williamson said this.

Speaker C:

I quoted it Sunday that everything is an act of love or a cry for help.

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And so somebody's behavior is a cry for help, a cry to be loved.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

Because I don't love myself, Let me be the light that shines upon you and shows you that you're worthy, you're valuable, you don't have to behave that way.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Well, there's.

Speaker A:

Yeah, and that's Subtly taught and caught.

Speaker A:

You know, I mean, you're not sitting somebody down, going, check, check, check, check, check.

Speaker C:

I've done my three blessings for the day.

Speaker C:

We're done.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Okay, let's move on.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

But blessings have been part of religious practices for millennia.

Speaker A:

I mean, you can go all the way back to the Egyptians and maybe even further back.

Speaker A:

I'm, you know, I'm guessing.

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All right, but, you know, if without a doubt, it's ecumenical, right?

Speaker A:

Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and really all the various, you know, indigenous traditions.

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I mean, you're going to find this kind of thing, this practice, this energy, as the revs already said, you're going to find it everywhere.

Speaker C:

Let me throw a boomerang here.

Speaker C:

Or a curveball.

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker C:

If you go back in history, all these religions predate.

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Go back to the beginning, the inception.

Speaker C:

The big bang was the original big Bang.

Speaker C:

Just God blessing itself.

Speaker C:

Himself is the beginning of history.

Speaker C:

God just blessing itself.

Speaker C:

I know it's a curveball.

Speaker B:

I think I just had a big bang in my mind, in my head.

Speaker B:

I think that's what happened there.

Speaker C:

Big bang or an aneurysm.

Speaker C:

What happened?

Speaker A:

Well, but all right, now, here's what I'm pondering there, Rev.

Speaker A:

Here's where I go with that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, right.

Speaker A:

If that's true, then how does God get blessed in all of that by his creation?

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Just, you know, God is blessed by creating, and then relationally.

Speaker A:

That's not a word, is it?

Speaker B:

It is now relating to itself.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's beautiful.

Speaker B:

And it was good.

Speaker A:

And it was good, Right?

Speaker A:

That's exactly right.

Speaker A:

So we're going to.

Speaker A:

We're grounding ourselves in this.

Speaker A:

That perspective.

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Without a doubt.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Can we.

Speaker C:

Can we suspend any ideas and just live with the premise?

Speaker C:

As you've said, it is good.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker C:

Whatever it is.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

It is good.

Speaker C:

That's at the core.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's a.

Speaker A:

Got to get your head around that a little bit.

Speaker B:

That's a better way to live life.

Speaker A:

Oh.

Speaker B:

In my opinion, I wish more people would, you know, do.

Speaker B:

Do this and think that way.

Speaker A:

Well.

Speaker A:

And it doesn't make you weak.

Speaker A:

It doesn't make you any strength, courage.

Speaker C:

It takes determination, humility to see beyond your behavior and go, you're good at the core, and you will be a.

Speaker B:

Blessing for others by doing this.

Speaker C:

Amen.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

So, you know, we bless in lots of different ways, but as we were talking in the pre show, we've already kind of hit it, hinted at it right here.

Speaker A:

Blessings are an energy, you know, and they Come in so many different ways, right?

Speaker A:

I mean, we have our typical, you know, ways that we think about blessing.

Speaker A:

We receive a blessing, right?

Speaker A:

You know, somebody gives us one.

Speaker A:

We see this all the time.

Speaker A:

And anointing, say, maybe for a particular office, like they might do in, again, the Catholic Church or really almost any Christian denomination, you can be anointed for your, you know, office and things like that.

Speaker B:

And people may not see what I'm about to say as.

Speaker B:

Or they may not acknowledge this as a blessing.

Speaker B:

But in the pre show we were talking about, what do you say when.

Speaker B:

When someone sneezes, right?

Speaker B:

You say bless you like you're.

Speaker B:

This.

Speaker B:

This is a blessing.

Speaker A:

Yeah, right.

Speaker B:

You know, and.

Speaker B:

And people unconsciously say it almost kind of robotic.

Speaker B:

But if.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And the reason I want to mention this is because maybe you can say it with a different energy next time, like make it a true blessing.

Speaker B:

That gives you an opportunity to bless somebody for something that they, you know, just naturally do, you know what I mean?

Speaker C:

How much more powerful would the acknowledgement be if it was conscious and not just wrote?

Speaker C:

And I think when you, whether it be saying bless you or the sneeze, anointing you for an office, it's saying, I recognize and acknowledge your value.

Speaker C:

You matter.

Speaker C:

You're here on earth.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You matter.

Speaker C:

Acknowledgment itself is a blessing.

Speaker B:

Yes, yes, I'm with you.

Speaker A:

Oh, here I am.

Speaker C:

Okay, we lost you for a minute.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I know.

Speaker A:

I was gone there.

Speaker B:

The mad monks back.

Speaker A:

I am back.

Speaker B:

So that was the receiving part.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker B:

He jumped in on that one.

Speaker A:

Well, no, that's it.

Speaker A:

And you know, again, I think when you're blessed, also think about, you know, think about in the times in your life when you have been blessed actively many times, some people will lay their hands on.

Speaker A:

A lot of times on you, on your head, or it can be general, certainly in a general blessing, like we were reading earlier from the Bible.

Speaker A:

But when you get blessed like that, at least in many practices, you bow, you kneel.

Speaker A:

I mean, and it's not in subservience to somebody.

Speaker A:

It's just out of humility, reverence.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, and so I think it's beautiful.

Speaker A:

Again, it teaches you a little bit about dying a little bit to that ego itself that you have receive it, but receive it humbly and receive it thankfully.

Speaker C:

You know, I had my wife teach me at one point.

Speaker C:

People would give me a compliment about a song I'd done or something I read or said, and I would find.

Speaker C:

I'd say oh, well, I messed up.

Speaker C:

I screwed up that part there, and that part wasn't good enough.

Speaker C:

And she says, you're not receiving the blessing.

Speaker C:

Thank you is a complete sentence.

Speaker C:

That's the humility.

Speaker C:

You may in your head know you didn't do it as well as you could have, but then I'm denying the blessing for somebody else.

Speaker C:

Getting.

Speaker C:

Acknowledging me that she says, you're like slapping them in the face.

Speaker C:

So this humility, this ability to receive, to humble myself, whether it be kneeling or just saying thank you without any argument, is a reciprocal blessing.

Speaker A:

You know, that's such a great point.

Speaker A:

We didn't have that in the notes, but you bring that up, that just says, don't deny others the joy.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

I mean, because so often we want to make it all about ourself.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

You know, did I get a blessing?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

What.

Speaker A:

What's it mean for me?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

As opposed to allowing others to have the joy and you just receive it humbly and let them give of themselves.

Speaker A:

That's beautiful.

Speaker A:

I love.

Speaker C:

That's giving them a gift in return.

Speaker B:

That.

Speaker B:

That sometimes that's one of these.

Speaker B:

That's moments in life that could be uncomfortable for people.

Speaker B:

Like some people are uncomfortable receiving compliments.

Speaker A:

You're right.

Speaker B:

And so this is good encouragement to, you know.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Start getting comfortable with being uncomfortable.

Speaker B:

Well.

Speaker C:

And you're blocking your own blessing.

Speaker C:

The blessing is always there, but you're not receiving it.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Because maybe it'd be easier if you think about how it's.

Speaker B:

It's a blessing on the person giving it to you.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Like describing it.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Maybe that would make it easier if you have a hard time accepting it.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Giving them a gift.

Speaker A:

I'm giving you a gift.

Speaker C:

You guys give me a blessing right now.

Speaker C:

I think the two of you guys are pretty amazing there.

Speaker C:

Thank you for letting me have my blessings.

Speaker A:

There it is.

Speaker A:

We'll receive that with my head bowed and receive it joyfully.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

So we receive a blessing.

Speaker A:

That's kind of one sort of way that blessings happen.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Then we have these things by petition, you know, we'll ask for a blessing.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And, you know, a lot of times, especially throughout history, you know, when people.

Speaker A:

You were trying to figure out the cosmos, they were trying to figure out why it rained, why it didn't.

Speaker A:

The sun, the waves, the moon.

Speaker A:

I mean, all of that stuff.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

You know, and there was this petition sort of to have gained the favor of the gods.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, that you would provide.

Speaker A:

You would almost sacrifice an animal, you know, as A blessing so that what, you could receive a blessing back?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And that's just, you know, that's the way we've operated as a culture in many different ways, you know, forever.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And I think we get to the place where we say thank you, right?

Speaker A:

The gratitude comes in here again, the thank you comes in here.

Speaker A:

And again, whether or not we're going to talk about this a little bit more as we go down, but, you know, whether or not you believe that you can ask God, you know, petition God for something and depending upon some circumstance or however that works, that you receive it back.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

In a sort of circular.

Speaker A:

I call it the gumball God, right?

Speaker A:

The gumball machine.

Speaker A:

You put the quarter in and you turn the handle, it crank and you get the gumball.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

But is asking a necessary component to receiving a blessing?

Speaker C:

So thank you.

Speaker C:

Not saying thank you and shutting up is not receiving it.

Speaker C:

But do I need to ask?

Speaker C:

Do I have to understand my own value and own worth to go, I deserve some good in my life?

Speaker C:

I think that's an important thing.

Speaker C:

I've got to acknowledge that I'm worthy and valuable myself.

Speaker C:

And that means asking, hey, could you do me a favor?

Speaker C:

Hey, could you help me out?

Speaker C:

That's receiving a blessing.

Speaker B:

So as it relates to God, I've battled with this thought.

Speaker B:

I mean, God, I believe God knows what I'm about to ask.

Speaker B:

He knows what I need, what I need, things like that.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, but when I think about it, why would I even say it out loud, say the words if he already knows, Right?

Speaker B:

So here.

Speaker B:

Here's where I landed the plane on this one, right.

Speaker B:

I'm in a relationship with God, right?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

So I have to interact with God to be in a relationship.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker B:

Same thing with you guys, right.

Speaker B:

Like, I can't just sit here and we can't yet in our lives, like, read each other's minds.

Speaker B:

That might be scary.

Speaker C:

Welcome to the psychic podcast.

Speaker B:

But I mean, if you know, you have.

Speaker B:

When you're in relationship, you have a conversation.

Speaker B:

So that's how I see that now.

Speaker B:

Like, okay, yeah, I know God.

Speaker B:

He knows what I'm going to say, but I'm interacting with God.

Speaker B:

Does that make sense?

Speaker A:

Yeah, it makes sense to me.

Speaker C:

And my view of this is a little different.

Speaker C:

And I think we find agreement here.

Speaker C:

It's already there.

Speaker C:

The blessing you would ask for already exists.

Speaker C:

It's just your job to wake up to it.

Speaker C:

But you have to have a relationship with it, right.

Speaker C:

In order to receive it, you have to be aware, looking Listening, talking in.

Speaker A:

Order to receive antennas up, speak it into existence.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And this is an interesting concept that river was just talking about because again, we talked about in the pre show that the favor, the blessing of the deity, God, you know, the one power, the cosmos.

Speaker A:

I mean, however you're framing it right, the blessing is already there.

Speaker A:

And it's been given with no, you know, with no qualifications, with no, you know, hoops you got to jump through.

Speaker A:

There's no things that you have to do to earn it or to get it or to go find it.

Speaker A:

It's just a matter of waking up.

Speaker A:

I think it's.

Speaker C:

But there is still that asking of like, say, mike, I need to change a tire in my car and I'm having some trouble.

Speaker C:

I need some help.

Speaker C:

I have to be willing to call one of you guys and ask, hey, could you give me a hand?

Speaker C:

I need a hand here.

Speaker C:

Otherwise you don't know.

Speaker A:

Well, that's true.

Speaker C:

You know, I'm all about love meets the road.

Speaker C:

Let's take it out of the realm of God and let's put it in God doing business as all creation as friendship in a relationship.

Speaker C:

I'm going to ask you, could you help me get my tire changed?

Speaker A:

The rubber, meeting the road.

Speaker C:

But I don't deserve that.

Speaker C:

The Mac is so busy.

Speaker C:

I don't deserve it.

Speaker C:

I'll just sit on the side of the road and pout.

Speaker C:

A lot of people are missing their blessing because they don't just ask.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And it's.

Speaker A:

I think I also determined that if you.

Speaker A:

If you give a gift.

Speaker A:

I got a gift in my hand.

Speaker A:

Right, Right.

Speaker A:

And I'm going to give it.

Speaker A:

I'm going to offer it to Stu.

Speaker A:

Now you have a choice, right?

Speaker B:

I have to accept it.

Speaker A:

To accept it in order to receive the blessing or the goodness or whatever that is that I got in my hand.

Speaker A:

Right, Right.

Speaker A:

So understand that it's subtle.

Speaker A:

And at the same time, these are universal truths and laws that just work.

Speaker C:

On that note, I have a flat tire in the driveway.

Speaker C:

If you could help me.

Speaker A:

Well, that means the rubber is not meeting the road.

Speaker A:

So we've already kind of talked about the last category that we want.

Speaker A:

We're going to talk about conferring that there's a blessing conferred, that a blessing is given.

Speaker A:

And we talked about how we do it to each other.

Speaker A:

It can be done corporately.

Speaker A:

We did already talk about how Abraham was blessed to be a blessing.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker B:

To others.

Speaker A:

To others.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker C:

Responsibility.

Speaker A:

And, you know, I want a little side note to that story, if you, if you haven't really realized this before, but, but the whole story of Abram and before he became Abraham, right, he was listening to God, but this was kind of a brand new thing.

Speaker A:

I mean, he didn't really.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's not like he grew up knowing God.

Speaker A:

All right, it wasn't that way.

Speaker A:

But then he told God, told Abram to move, to go somewhere else from where he was from Haran.

Speaker A:

All right, and where did he tell him to go?

Speaker A:

He told him to go to the area that we know today, you know, as Israel.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

That part of the world, and understand that strategicness of God at that point.

Speaker A:

That was a major trade route in the world.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

So there were people coming and going all through that area.

Speaker A:

So God basically said, I'm going to send you to where the people are now.

Speaker A:

Your job is to bless them.

Speaker A:

You know, I think that's a really cool part of that.

Speaker A:

And think about it from ourselves.

Speaker A:

Do we put ourselves in different environments or do we run around in our little bubble talking to the same old people in the same old way?

Speaker A:

And I don't mean you can't bless those people.

Speaker A:

I mean, certainly you can.

Speaker A:

But to really pay it forward outside of your comfort zone, you can bless and you can send that energy to others if you just.

Speaker C:

And that movement is not always external.

Speaker C:

Sometimes through internal movement, I gotta change my thinking in order to receive the blessing and be a blessing.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Oh, change your thinking.

Speaker A:

Oh, I think we talk about that all the time, don't we?

Speaker A:

All right, so look, that was great.

Speaker A:

I think there's so many cool little nuggets in there.

Speaker A:

We want to encourage you in blessings and Gabe, you some.

Speaker A:

A little bit of framework.

Speaker A:

We're going to take a real quick stop here and we're just going to take a break and then we're going to be right back.

Speaker A:

So hang with us.

Speaker B:

All righty.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

Love it.

Speaker A:

I mean, stuff's coming from all different places.

Speaker A:

And again, what I love to see is every.

Speaker A:

It's not all isolated.

Speaker A:

Oh, that's over here.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, that point's right here.

Speaker A:

Oh, that point's here.

Speaker A:

And you kind of go.

Speaker C:

You're really gifted, though.

Speaker C:

You.

Speaker C:

You allow us the freedom to do that because you're able to tie it together.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker A:

It's good.

Speaker A:

I mean, I love the.

Speaker A:

I love it.

Speaker A:

And I just love the way flows that we get everybody's wisdom because we're wise guys, right?

Speaker B:

We are wise.

Speaker C:

You know, we skipped over wise.

Speaker C:

And Heimers, maybe the really important scripture let us make man in our image after our likeness.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

That's the original.

Speaker C:

But we may go back to that.

Speaker B:

When we get towards the original blessing.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker A:

No, we haven't done that yet.

Speaker C:

Oh, okay.

Speaker C:

I thought we were at the middle.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A:

That's kind of where I had scheduled it, but we haven't gone through that particular section yet.

Speaker B:

He's running an audible.

Speaker B:

That's right.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Shift.

Speaker A:

I'm running an audible.

Speaker A:

Did you ever see that paper lion?

Speaker A:

There was that movie.

Speaker B:

No, no, no.

Speaker B:

Oh, how could I not have seen this?

Speaker A:

I grew up in Detroit.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

So George Plimpton, who was a writer.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, he was a sports writer.

Speaker A:

They.

Speaker A:

He in.

Speaker A:

In training camp, he went out there and he trained with him.

Speaker A:

I mean, the whole deal.

Speaker A:

He would get out there and he worked out and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And so in the final minutes of one of the preseason games, they let him play quarterback.

Speaker A:

Oh, wow, That's a quarterback.

Speaker B:

That's fun.

Speaker A:

And so he takes the snap, right.

Speaker A:

It's almost like one of those.

Speaker A:

Ow.

Speaker C:

Oh.

Speaker A:

You know.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And so he's got this.

Speaker A:

And he's running around in the backfield, right?

Speaker A:

And he's trying to find somebody, and everybody's going, you know, I'm open.

Speaker B:

Throw it to me.

Speaker A:

So he's doing this, and then he's running backwards and he comes.

Speaker A:

So finally, the last shot in the scene is he does one of these, and he's running around.

Speaker A:

He turns around and runs smack into the goal post.

Speaker C:

Boom.

Speaker A:

Like this.

Speaker A:

Oh, God, it was great.

Speaker B:

Oh, that's good.

Speaker B:

That's good.

Speaker A:

All right, so we're back to pulling back in original blessing now.

Speaker B:

All right, let's do it.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

Welcome back to the Wise Guys, where we.

Speaker A:

And my.

Speaker A:

We.

Speaker B:

We.

Speaker A:

And I say me, the mad monk, and we go.

Speaker A:

We're gonna have a French.

Speaker A:

No, I can't go there.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

I'll get confused.

Speaker B:

Bonjour.

Speaker A:

But I got my co conspirators here, my wise guys.

Speaker A:

So we had a great first half.

Speaker A:

Really, lots of really cool.

Speaker A:

I.

Speaker A:

I think nuggets in that.

Speaker A:

Talking about blessing.

Speaker A:

Maybe.

Speaker A:

Maybe we gave you some new ideas over how to look at blessings.

Speaker A:

We hope we did, but now we're going to sort of circle back to Matthew Fox.

Speaker A:

As I mentioned that in the very beginning, he wrote the book called Original Blessing.

Speaker A:

And you know his premise.

Speaker A:

Let's just start, first of all, from the Bible with a creation story.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And you Know, God saw.

Speaker A:

It's come from Genesis.

Speaker A:

All right?

Speaker A:

God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

Speaker A:

Very good.

Speaker C:

Very good.

Speaker A:

Okay, now there's a little nuance there.

Speaker A:

If you haven't ever noticed it.

Speaker A:

God as he made the other five days, Right.

Speaker A:

Well, six, by that time.

Speaker A:

It's six days.

Speaker A:

Okay, it was good.

Speaker A:

Good, Right, okay, it was good.

Speaker A:

He made humans, he made the earth, he made the sun, and he made the sun.

Speaker A:

It was good.

Speaker A:

It was good.

Speaker A:

But he looked around at the whole big picture and he said.

Speaker B:

Very good.

Speaker B:

Right, right.

Speaker A:

So again, that's a blessing.

Speaker A:

God looked at it.

Speaker A:

This gets back to, I think, what the Rev was saying in the.

Speaker A:

In the.

Speaker A:

In the first half about the big bang.

Speaker A:

And was it just an automatic, you know, sort of blessing that God just, you know, bestowed or received or was.

Speaker A:

I guess.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

You like to use those terms.

Speaker A:

God just was.

Speaker A:

He is.

Speaker A:

Isness.

Speaker A:

All right, That's a new word.

Speaker C:

God is in the business of isness.

Speaker A:

Okay, we'll go with that.

Speaker B:

Hey, wait, there's the meme for this episode business.

Speaker A:

So anyway, so we start out with that original blessing.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And then, you know, we encompass in that what, the earth.

Speaker B:

Yeah, right.

Speaker A:

God blessed the earth and said it was good.

Speaker A:

God blessed all the animals.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

God blessed all the people.

Speaker A:

He blessed the cosmos and the heavens.

Speaker A:

I mean, all of it as it was created was good.

Speaker A:

And it worked with the other things.

Speaker A:

I mean, it was all holistic.

Speaker A:

It was all organic.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Isn't it beautiful?

Speaker C:

The old Blind Boys of Alabama song.

Speaker C:

God said it, and that's good enough for me.

Speaker C:

God said it was good.

Speaker C:

So God said you were good.

Speaker C:

I don't know if I see it yet, but God said it, so I'm going to believe it.

Speaker A:

I'm leaving into it.

Speaker A:

I'm leaning into it.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

So, yeah.

Speaker A:

So, you know, we've got.

Speaker A:

Now, now, here's a misconception.

Speaker A:

I think that happens a lot in the West.

Speaker A:

You know, there is a distinction when we start to talk about anything religious, quite frankly, but especially in Christianity, for those of you that don't realize this, there's a Western Christianity that came out of Rome.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And all through history.

Speaker A:

And then there was an Eastern Orthodox Christ Christianity that moved off of from Constantinople, you know, and they're common in ways, but they're definitely different in their theology as well.

Speaker A:

All right, so, you know, somewhere I.

Speaker C:

Read there's 30,000 different sects of Christianity.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So we all get a vote.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And that, you Know, think about that for just a second and the ramifications that it have.

Speaker A:

But the earth a lot of times, especially, especially in the west, and this is from Bible verses that you can interpret one way or another.

Speaker A:

But we don't tend to look at it necessarily nature as in the earth as a blessing and beautiful and good.

Speaker A:

I mean we can go out and take a hike, we can go out and do this stuff.

Speaker A:

We can see a sunset, we can see a sunrise.

Speaker A:

But we've exploited a lot.

Speaker A:

And I just say we.

Speaker A:

I mean, I'm not pointing a finger at anybody.

Speaker A:

I'm just saying we have certainly in some ways squandered that blessing.

Speaker A:

I guess, can I use that term?

Speaker C:

You know, I'm going to reflect on my son Adam as a kid, as a six year old, he would say stop, stop, stop the van.

Speaker C:

And we'd stop thinking something was wrong.

Speaker C:

And he'd say, look at that moon.

Speaker C:

He was filled with such.

Speaker C:

He was blessed by the moon and he wanted to share the blessing with the whole van.

Speaker C:

And here we were panicked and it was just.

Speaker C:

Let's just take a moment to reflect on how beautiful that moon is.

Speaker A:

I love that man.

Speaker A:

There's the blessed by the moon and to be a blessing to the rest.

Speaker C:

Of the people and tell everybody else you're missing this.

Speaker C:

Stop the van, stop the life, stop the noise and the chaos.

Speaker B:

Look.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And Stu's told stories about living, you know, in Costa Rica and the different frame of mind that you had going there versus, you know, living life here in the States and a new appreciation for, you know, everything from a nature standpoint.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

I mean that, Right when that.

Speaker A:

Cool.

Speaker A:

So, so the earth, then people.

Speaker A:

How about people that are blessed?

Speaker A:

And let's just again, let's go to Genesis, you know, and then God said, let us make man, women, people.

Speaker A:

Right, right.

Speaker A:

Mankind or people kind.

Speaker A:

Let us make them in our image after our likeness.

Speaker A:

And again, we've all heard those passages.

Speaker A:

If you're Christian, you've heard that before.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

But think about that now from a blessing standpoint, not just a creation standpoint.

Speaker A:

Oh, God made me.

Speaker A:

Okay, I get that.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Where's the blessing?

Speaker A:

That's part of that.

Speaker B:

Yeah, the.

Speaker B:

Our image and our likeness, you know, that's the blessing to me.

Speaker C:

When I say I carry a step further.

Speaker C:

It's the very substance of God.

Speaker C:

Out of itself it had a self contemplative thought and then all creation sprang.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You can't separate it.

Speaker A:

I mean it is and it will always be and it's not.

Speaker A:

It's not up for discussion, per se.

Speaker A:

It's not, you know, did you get it?

Speaker A:

Didn't you get it?

Speaker A:

You know, all that kind of stuff, or how do you get it?

Speaker B:

Everybody has it.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker C:

Except we have forgotten that's the fall from grace.

Speaker C:

I went asleep and I forgot that I was made out of that good stuff.

Speaker A:

Right, right.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And once you.

Speaker A:

Once you start to raise your consciousness higher and higher, you begin to embrace that and understand it and accept it even more and more and more, you know, which I think is our mission.

Speaker A:

Some of our mission, for sure.

Speaker C:

The real challenge is to begin to.

Speaker C:

It's not a private good.

Speaker C:

I have to accept that about everybody else.

Speaker A:

True.

Speaker C:

They're made up of that same good stuff.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

I'm not going there to give you.

Speaker C:

My list of exceptions.

Speaker A:

I don't think so.

Speaker A:

Okay, so.

Speaker A:

All right, we've talked about this.

Speaker A:

It exists for eternity.

Speaker A:

So, you know, we do practice blessings today.

Speaker A:

I mean, in the culture and, you know, as we go about it.

Speaker A:

And you probably see this more.

Speaker A:

I'm just gonna make a blanket statement, you know.

Speaker A:

Anyway, you probably see this more from a Christian standpoint in the Catholic Church.

Speaker A:

You know, the Catholic Church's ritual is steeped in these blessings.

Speaker A:

Whether, you know, whether it's reading the scripture that are pointing to that, whether it's the ordaining, whether it's, you know, blessing.

Speaker A:

I'll give you a story.

Speaker A:

I had my first child, my daughter.

Speaker A:

And we were living with my grandparents at that time, but my parents were really close with one of the priests over at the Catholic church that we went to.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So he came over to visit and, you know, this and that and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker A:

And I got my daughter in my arms, right?

Speaker A:

And he just.

Speaker A:

Oh, he had a little baby and all that.

Speaker A:

And then my mother looks at me.

Speaker A:

You can't really see this if you're not unless you're watching me on YouTube.

Speaker A:

But my mother looks at me and she goes, you know, she.

Speaker A:

She kind of nods her head and leans it over there toward the priest.

Speaker A:

And basically what she was telling me is, go take Lauren over there to let him bless her.

Speaker B:

Right, right.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You know, I mean, I was, like, clueless.

Speaker A:

I wasn't paying any attention.

Speaker A:

So, you know, I went over there and, you know, he did that, which was beautiful.

Speaker A:

I mean, you know, and he got.

Speaker A:

Here's what you were talking about.

Speaker A:

Do you think he got joy out of doing that?

Speaker B:

Oh, for sure.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

It wasn't just one way I mean, it was so beautiful.

Speaker C:

Every baby blessing I've ever done, every christening I've ever done blessed me as much as it blessed the family.

Speaker A:

Amen to that.

Speaker C:

Man, I cried just thinking about.

Speaker A:

No doubt.

Speaker A:

So, you know, you can see them all over the place in ritual in the Catholic Church for sure.

Speaker A:

But we also can look at when we start to move off a little bit from what we do today and some of this other kind of stuff.

Speaker A:

You know, there are alternate ways and perspectives to look at blessings as well, and we've mentioned some of them here, but we're going to kind of maybe herd the cats together, you know, circle the wagons a little bit, maybe be a little more specific about it as we.

Speaker A:

As we end up.

Speaker A:

So, you know, again, we're going to talk original blessing, right?

Speaker A:

That's, again, we're coming from Matthew Fox, original blessing.

Speaker A:

And he would say, you know, as opposed as an alternate way to look at the blessing, you know, sometimes, especially starting with St.

Speaker A:

Augustine, who was, you know, who was alive during the fourth century, you know, he came up with a theology in the Christian church that it was about fall and redemption, all right?

Speaker A:

It was about the fact that, you know, we're fallen and we need to be redeemed as opposed to just accepting the original blessing that just was there.

Speaker A:

And it can't be taken away or you can't earn it.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

And so that's a theological thing that some of you out there, especially if you've grown up, you know, in any kind of Christian church per se, you know, might be a little bit, you know, it might be a little.

Speaker A:

Wait a minute here.

Speaker A:

Now, what are we doing here with, you know, with some of my, you know, religion and my faith, but just, I don't know, you got to understand where that came from.

Speaker A:

Jesus really didn't talk about that.

Speaker A:

Again, the idea of original sin wasn't around until the fourth century.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Hello.

Speaker A:

I mean, you might not understand that.

Speaker A:

So, you know, we're talking.

Speaker A:

What kind of original blessing we talking about?

Speaker A:

You know, what could that be?

Speaker A:

It's inherent, right?

Speaker A:

It's eternal.

Speaker A:

It's truth.

Speaker A:

It just is.

Speaker A:

And it applies to all people.

Speaker A:

We've already said that, right?

Speaker A:

We're just kind of.

Speaker A:

We're just kind of, you know, well, it's.

Speaker C:

Go back.

Speaker C:

You gave your child to the priest.

Speaker C:

The priest saw the goodness God affirmed.

Speaker C:

It is good.

Speaker C:

I see it, and it's good.

Speaker C:

And God.

Speaker C:

That's the only view God has of any of us.

Speaker C:

God does not see the mistake, the sin God is not punishing you because you screwed up.

Speaker C:

You're being punished by your sin, not by.

Speaker C:

Not for it.

Speaker C:

So God only has the view of the coach and his magnificence and his light and his goodness.

Speaker C:

And you, Mac, in your goodness, in your purity, in your magnificence, that's all God sees.

Speaker C:

And that blessings there.

Speaker C:

Where we get into trouble is we don't see it ourselves.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

I don't see it in you, then I'm the one who's going to be suffering.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

That is so vitally important that at the core and at the root, people are basically good and they've just forgotten.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah, let's.

Speaker A:

Let's etch that down somewhere, everybody.

Speaker C:

So rather than needing to be fixed, and this might offend some people, I apologize if it does.

Speaker C:

Rather than needing to be saved, you just need to wake up.

Speaker C:

Jesus saves us from sleepwalking.

Speaker A:

Remember.

Speaker B:

You just need to remember.

Speaker C:

Remember I forgot who I was.

Speaker A:

Right, right, right, right.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, these are theologically, these can kind of go a little bit against what you might commonly or been told.

Speaker A:

But understand.

Speaker A:

What did I title this section about?

Speaker A:

There are some alternative, there are some alternate perspectives that again, we talk about this all the time, about changing your mind.

Speaker A:

Think about it, think about, frame all of this that we've been talking about.

Speaker A:

Frame it within God's character.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

The early church had a thing called the rule of, of love.

Speaker A:

And everything they did, they were deciding about Jesus, they were deciding about each other, they were deciding about when to sit, when to stand, what to eat, all the.

Speaker A:

Because they drug, you know, Judaism, you know, from their past.

Speaker A:

And they basically came up with this very, very simple filter, the grid that they ran everything through.

Speaker A:

Does that speak to the loving character of God, yes or no?

Speaker A:

And if the answer was no, they said, okay, we're on the wrong path.

Speaker A:

We got to, you know, we got to.

Speaker A:

We got to change our focus.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

You know, and I think when you start to ponder maybe some of this stuff we're talking about and you can read about, we're not making this stuff up.

Speaker A:

Think for yourself.

Speaker A:

If God's love and God's going to bless you and God is a blessing, then how do you grid your faith, your religion, the way you look at God, the way you look at people.

Speaker A:

Right here's beautiful.

Speaker B:

Here's how I, I kind of see this.

Speaker B:

It's not that we don't sin, since we're using that thing.

Speaker B:

I mean, these things happen and we do that.

Speaker C:

Sure.

Speaker B:

But I am and this took me a lot of years to be able to say what I'm about to say.

Speaker B:

But I am not defined by my sin.

Speaker B:

I am not my sin.

Speaker B:

I am a blessing, Right?

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

And so it's not that it doesn't happen, but.

Speaker B:

But it doesn't define who I am.

Speaker B:

And I would say that's true about anything that happens in your life.

Speaker B:

Anything that's happened, maybe to you in your life.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

You are not that.

Speaker B:

You are not defined by that.

Speaker B:

You are a blessing.

Speaker B:

And again, to the Rev's point, people have forgotten this, right?

Speaker B:

Especially if they've had bad experiences in their lives, they have forgotten it.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

And we encourage you to.

Speaker B:

To remember.

Speaker B:

Figure out a way to remember this.

Speaker C:

The hard part of this equation.

Speaker C:

And it's true.

Speaker C:

Know it for yourself.

Speaker C:

I have to know it for you, too, that you've forgotten.

Speaker C:

I want to help you remember.

Speaker C:

That's the blessing.

Speaker C:

I know who you are.

Speaker C:

I don't know who you're pretending to be, but I know who you are.

Speaker C:

And I will not give up my ability to see that love in you.

Speaker A:

Well, yeah, that's so beautiful because it's true.

Speaker A:

You know, I'm just gonna go out there and I'm gonna say, you can.

Speaker C:

Feel the truth when you do that.

Speaker C:

When you get to that place, you can feel.

Speaker C:

I feel connected to God itself.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

So Mac and Rev, Somebody out there needs to hear this.

Speaker C:

Yep.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker B:

They need to hear this.

Speaker B:

You are a blessing.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker C:

Thank you for existing.

Speaker C:

Thank you for being you.

Speaker C:

Thank you for showing up the way you show up on Earth.

Speaker A:

Right, Right.

Speaker A:

Well, that's.

Speaker A:

If you remember nothing else from what we're talking about on this episode.

Speaker A:

Take that to heart.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

And there's lots of other things about blessings.

Speaker A:

You know, they can promote, they can push you.

Speaker A:

They can open up awe, wonder, and a greater sense of gratitude.

Speaker A:

Sometimes in our religious practice, it becomes rote.

Speaker A:

It just becomes of what we're doing, you know, and we don't see the beauty.

Speaker A:

We don't see the magnificence.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

We just see what we've always seen, and we put the blinders on and we move through.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker C:

Stop the van.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Look at them.

Speaker A:

I love that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, and this is ancient stuff, gang.

Speaker A:

I mean, this is not something that the church or any religion just made up, like, you know, last week.

Speaker A:

All right?

Speaker A:

These are ancient practices that are beautiful.

Speaker A:

I mean, let's bring forward, let's bring to us what beautiful that, you know, that we want to carry forward.

Speaker A:

And then as we move that into the future, you know, we're going to.

Speaker A:

We're going to realize and we're going to accept and cultivate greater and deeper stuff, you know, I mean, that's a path we're all on, right?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

So that's been beautiful.

Speaker A:

That's been beautiful.

Speaker A:

So we do want to thank you guys.

Speaker A:

I mean, man, oh, man, this has just been.

Speaker A:

Let me just say this.

Speaker A:

I've been blessed by our conversation, so thank you both.

Speaker C:

Well, you mad Monk, You've been a blessing to you.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker A:

I just.

Speaker A:

If you didn't.

Speaker A:

I haven't put out any video from last week yet, but you got to see me in character.

Speaker A:

Okay, that.

Speaker A:

That was pretty cool.

Speaker C:

And you're a blessing, too, when you have life and a headlock.

Speaker C:

Still have time for push ups.

Speaker A:

Pin in it.

Speaker A:

You got to pin it.

Speaker A:

All right, we're going to leave you guys with a little bit of a blessing right now, okay?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

So here we go.

Speaker A:

May the road rise up to meet you.

Speaker B:

May the wind be always at your back.

Speaker C:

And may the sun shine warm upon your face.

Speaker C:

And the rains fall soft upon your fields.

Speaker C:

Until we meet again.

Speaker A:

May God hold you in the palm of his hand.

Speaker A:

All right, we love all you guys.

Speaker A:

Thanks so much for listening.

Speaker A:

Catch us next week and go out and be a blessing to all others.

Speaker A:

You know, that's our.

Speaker A:

That's our charge to you.

Speaker A:

So thanks, guys.

Speaker A:

We appreciate you listening.

Speaker A:

We'll see you next week.

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About the Podcast

The WizeGuys
Stepping Over the Line
Do you ever find yourself feeling restless, dissatisfied, or curious about what lies beyond? Are you someone who questions established norms, strives to embrace your individuality, and craves an authentic existence? Welcome to The WizeGuys, a thought-provoking podcast hosted by Larry McDonald, a seasoned visionary, spiritual mentor, and unapologetic trailblazer. Join us as we explore the unconventional and challenge the conventional in religion, culture, philosophy and their impact on your everyday life.

Larry and a diverse team of free-thinkers and special guests, such as The Rev, Coach Stu, and the Fierce Mystic Sorceress, will unveil and dissect dogmas, doctrines, and divisions that often hinder or distort spirituality and society. Our perspective is that everything has a spiritual dimension, and we'll apply this perspective to a wide range of societal norms and practices, providing alternative viewpoints to the mainstream narrative.

Prepare to be inspired and encouraged to see the world differently as we venture to the frontier of the unconventional and beyond. Join us on this journey to expand your horizons and broaden your perspectives. Strap in and get ready to Step Over the Line!

About your hosts

Larry McDonald

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Mac is a seasoned visionary, spiritual mentor, and unapologetic maverick. His experience spans business, religion, academia, non-profit, and a host of foreign and domestic team-building and leadership development efforts. His favorite saying is, "Strap in!", as he loves to engage in thought-provoking conversations to evoke "ah-ha" moments that transcend the informational and welcome the inspirational. He's got four kids, five grandkids, four stepkids, loves boating, the Red Wings, and pierogies.

He'd love to hear from you at ljmcdonald19@gmail.com

John (Stu) Stulak

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Stu is a wrestling coach, competitive powerlifter, spiritual Jedi, movie-lover, avid book reader, proud husband/father, and passionate about healthy living & God. And let's not forget that he'll keep Mac and The Rev from straying too far afield as he applies a nuanced touch to the conversation. You'll love him...

Feel free to contact Stu at stu@insideedge.life