Storming the Gates of Your Mind: Embrace Your Inner Rogue
Join us as we dive into the MI5 challenge, focusing on how to embrace the idea of "going rogue" in our lives. This episode emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and understanding your own identity before taking bold actions that push boundaries. We explore the concept that our internal struggles often hold the key to unleashing our potential, urging listeners to storm the gates of their limitations and confront their fears. The conversation also touches on the impact of surrounding yourself with like-minded individuals who inspire growth and change. With a blend of humor and insight, we aim to encourage you to take the leap into the unknown and embrace the unthinkable in your journey toward transformation.
The WizeGuys podcast offers a transformative exploration of personal growth through the lens of their MI5 challenge, which serves as a central theme of the episode. Host Mac, along with co-hosts Stu and Rev, dives into the concept of 'seeing differently' as a means to challenge the status quo. They discuss how many people live within self-imposed limitations, often failing to engage with their inner potential. This episode encourages listeners to question their own lives, asking whether their guardian angels might indeed be bored due to a lack of risk-taking and adventure.
The hosts engage in a spirited discussion about the importance of self-awareness before embarking on a journey of going rogue. They emphasize that understanding one’s identity and values is crucial for meaningful growth. The conversation is filled with humor and camaraderie, making the serious insights shared by the hosts both digestible and compelling. Each host brings forth personal experiences, illustrating the power of vulnerability and authenticity in inspiring others to engage in their own transformative journeys.
As the episode progresses, the WizeGuys stress the ripple effect that personal change can have on the world. They posit that when individuals embrace their true selves and live authentically, they create a powerful energy that can inspire others to do the same. The episode concludes with a powerful call to action, urging listeners to embrace their inner rogue, challenge their fears, and take bold steps toward unleashing the unthinkable within themselves. It’s a rallying cry for those ready to make a difference in their own lives and the lives of others.
Takeaways:
- The Wise Guys Podcast emphasizes the importance of stepping outside your comfort zone to embrace new perspectives.
- Being open-minded is crucial for personal growth and allows for transformative thinking and actions.
- Engagement in meaningful conversations is essential to find like-minded individuals on your journey.
- You have to be willing to storm the gates of your own limitations and fears.
- Self-awareness is key; know your strengths and weaknesses before going rogue.
- Unleashing the unthinkable involves courage, vulnerability, and the willingness to inspire others.
Transcript
It's a divine appointment.
Mac:Go find people who are thinking the way you want to think, living the way you want to live, and being the way you want to be.
Mac:Be proactive about changing your world.
Mac:Don't sit around and wait for them to come to you.
Mac:Meet in the middle, right?
Stu:They are out there, right?
Stu:Have you ever been, like, in a seminar or some big group?
Stu:Let's say there's a lot of people in it, right?
Stu:And you have a question and you don't want to ask it, like, you're afraid to ask it, right?
Reverend:That's a tast of storming the gates of your mind.
Reverend:Going rogue.
Reverend:This week's episode of the Wise Guys, a podcast that unleashes the unthinkable in culture, religion, and everyday life.
Reverend: ggest a New year's mantra for: Reverend:So it's time to step over the line, strap in and see if you are willing to let Mac the Reverend and Coach Stu take you to a place of thinking differently.
Host:Okay, welcome to the Wise Guys podcast, where we unleash the unthinkable and step over the line to help us see things differently and go to the inside edge to stimulate new things.
Host:Thinking.
Host:We're all about new thinking.
Host:So, hi, I'm Mac.
Host:I'm your host.
Host:And in this episode, we're going to elaborate a little bit on our little MI5 thing that we do at the end of, you know, all of our episodes, and we're going to just dig right into each one of them.
Host:I think you're going to really have a lot of fun with it.
Host:I mean, we had fun putting it together and just bantering it around back and forth, but we love the way that these.
Host:I'm going to call them directives, you know, that, you know, we play around with, you know, fit into using wise guy wisdom.
Host:I mean, to make a difference, man.
Host:I mean, that's what we're doing here.
Host:So I got my.
Host:I got my Wise Guys.
Host:As always, Stu's in the house.
Stu:Hey, Matt.
Mac:Good to see you.
Host:All right, brother.
Stu:And there's the rev over there.
Mac:I'm here.
Mac:I'm ready to go, man.
Mac:I look forward to my nights with you guys.
Host:He's born ready, man.
Stu:Oh, I do, too.
Host:He's all good.
Host:This is.
Stu:This is my favorite part of the week.
Host:This is good.
Stu:Hey, let me say hello to all you beautiful, exotic cocktails out there.
Stu:Hello, everybody.
Stu:Hey, check this out.
Stu:I have some.
Stu:I have some news for you for you guys, you ready for this?
Host:I'm ready.
Stu:I was pleasantly surprised and a little bit shocked to hear this.
Stu:We.
Stu:We are now being listened to, meaning the Wise guys podcast in 21 different countries.
Host:I love that, man.
Host:I love it.
Stu:Isn't that amazing?
Host:Well, you know what?
Mac:I always.
Stu:I often wonder how they.
Stu:How they found us, and I, I.
Stu:I kind of don't care, but I.
Stu:But I kind of do because I just think it's cool that they're listening.
Stu:So hello to everybody out there, wherever you may be.
Mac:We want to know how you found us globally.
Host:Yeah, it's very cool.
Host:Good job, guys.
Host:Because we're doing something right.
Host:Right.
Host:All right, so we're going to just jump in today and.
Host:Hey, guys, guess what?
Stu:What's that?
Stu:Yeah, are you gonna Seeing differently glasses?
Host:That's right.
Host:Today we're talking about seeing differently, are we not?
Stu:Yes.
Host:Here it is.
Stu:So if you're watching the video, he's the Terminator.
Host:Okay.
Mac:These are very cool.
Host:There it is.
Stu:Okay.
Host:I'm really stylish tonight.
Host:I'm wearing my seeing differently glasses.
Host:So everybody out there, if you're watching our video, you will see them.
Host:We may start offering these, right?
Host:Yeah, we should put our logo on them.
Stu:Oh, that would be really cool.
Host:You know, be kind of cool with it.
Host:I think I'm gonna put this over here.
Host:So let's go.
Host:How about this?
Host:Little words to the wise tonight, gents.
Host:What do you think about this?
Host:Okay.
Host:And I think you're right.
Host:I pulled this from a Len.
Host:Sweet, Lenny.
Host:Sweet book.
Host:But I don't even think it was his quote.
Host:I think he quoted somebody else.
Host:But here's the scoop.
Host:I thought this was a very poignant little saying.
Host:Our guardian angels are bored.
Stu:Can you imagine?
Host:Right.
Host:Just think about that for a second, if it's true.
Mac:Well, I think they're a lot more bored than they used to be.
Mac:Mine are a lot more bored.
Mac:It's like, when did you quit risking?
Mac:When did you quit taking chances?
Stu:Come on.
Mac:Go out on a limb a little bit.
Host:Yes.
Host:Okay.
Stu:Clarence Odd Body wasn't bored in It's a Wonderful Life.
Host:True.
Host:That's right.
Stu:He was not bored at all.
Host:Okay, well, I mean, you got to step it up, gang.
Host:You know, let's give them.
Host:Let's make them earn their money or whatever, you know?
Host:I mean, they've been tasked with, you know, again, whether you believe this whole thing or not, I'm.
Host:It's.
Host:The point is, like Rev says, you know, put it in gear.
Stu:Yeah, You're.
Stu:You're to me when I hear this, you're.
Stu:You're basically living too safely.
Host:Right?
Stu:Right.
Stu:Like you're failing to engage in actions where you would need deep trust in God, you know, and, or, you know, which would challenge you to grow, you know, spiritually.
Stu:Right.
Stu:If you did that.
Stu:So that's to me what it all means.
Mac:So that's the gauntlet that we're throwing down tonight.
Mac:Let every word that we share tonight be a challenge.
Mac:Throw the gauntlet down and say, live more fully.
Mac:Live more, Love more wastefully.
Mac:Be more you.
Host:Yeah, yeah.
Host:And you know what?
Host:If you got to have a little somebody watching your back, you need a guardian angel watching your back, then good for you.
Host:Okay.
Host:You know, you know you're doing something right.
Host:Exactly.
Host:So think about that for a gang.
Host:I thought it was kind of fun.
Stu:Yeah, I like it.
Host:To.
Host:To talk about that.
Host:So we're going to press into this, right?
Stu:Yeah, let's do it.
Host:MI5, your ongoing mission, should you choose to accept it.
Host:And I thought it was interesting, you know, we say that every week.
Host:And I think there's a couple of really important words in that statement.
Host:First of all, ongoing.
Host:Right?
Host:It's not just a one timer.
Host:It's a lifestyle.
Mac:It's not a destination.
Mac:Huh?
Host:No, sorry.
Host:Next week and the next week and the next week.
Host:Right?
Host:So it's a journey.
Host:Should you choose to accept a choice.
Mac:The most powerful word on the planet.
Host:That's it.
Host:I mean, you're gonna have to choose to do this work.
Host:And we, again, we talk about doing the work all the time.
Host:Right, Stu?
Host:I mean, you know, it's just right.
Mac:But is not doing the work is also a choice?
Host:Well, that's a pretty good point too.
Host:All right, you're gonna make a choice no matter what, right?
Host:So we're encouraging you to make a greater one.
Host:Make one that'll move the needle for you and for the world.
Host:So there it is.
Host:Your ongoing mission, should you choose to accept it.
Host:Right.
Host:And again, we play around with this.
Host:It's fun stuff.
Mac:My mind to go backwards.
Stu:I know.
Stu:I feel like we're at the end.
Mac:This is the shortest episode ever.
Stu:What happened?
Host:Yeah.
Host:Yeah.
Host:So we're going to play this.
Host:But just get you in the mood out there, gang, okay?
Host:Get you pumped up a little bit, get you moving.
Host:But the big thing to remember, in my opinion about this mission and these five points that were, you know, that we've come up with, that we're gonna talk about.
Host:It's not a checklist.
Host:It's Not Okay, I'm doing one.
Host:I'm doing two.
Host:I'm doing three.
Host:Okay, done.
Host:You know, let's move on to the next thing.
Host:Right.
Host:It's a playlist in my opinion.
Host:Right.
Host:So we're, you know, you're gonna just play this.
Host:It's your playlist.
Host:You're gonna use these things as you need them and as you wan.
Host:To them as you're going rogue.
Mac:Could it be not just a playlist, but it be your constant prayer?
Host:Oh, that's.
Host:I like that.
Stu:Another way to look at it.
Stu:I like that.
Host:Oh, well, that brings up a whole nother way to look at it.
Host:I think that if it's your prayer, you almost start with an intention that considers it already done.
Host:You just gotta.
Host:Oh yeah, I know in the mind.
Mac:Of the one, it is already done.
Host:That's right.
Host:So that's what we.
Host:It's a whole other thing.
Host:I think we'll talk about that sometime.
Host:But.
Host:So what do you think then?
Host:There it is.
Host:We're going to, we're going to press in.
Stu:Well, let's, let's go ahead and get started with, with the first one.
Host:Yeah.
Stu:Which is deciding to go rogue.
Stu:Yep.
Stu:And to me this is being open minded and you.
Stu:So why would you do that?
Stu:Right?
Stu:Like, why would you be open minded?
Stu:Well, so that you can think differently.
Stu:Right.
Stu:I mean it seems like a simple concept, but.
Stu:Yeah, but it's, but it's true.
Stu:And, but before you can do this, or not even.
Stu:I shouldn't even say before you can do this, you just have to be aware of your own confidence level.
Stu:Like who you.
Stu:You have to know.
Stu:It'd be better for you to know who you are first.
Host:Yeah.
Host:Right.
Stu:Before just totally going rogue.
Stu:Because if you, if you, if you go, if you go rogue, you may not and not know who you are.
Stu:That could be confusing.
Stu:I would think for people.
Mac:Things could go wrong.
Host:You don't know who you are.
Mac:It's just like throwing caution to the wind.
Mac:No, there's a groundedness that's important to trying something new.
Host:Well, yeah.
Host:No credible.
Host:You don't have any credibility at that point.
Host:You know, you can definitely harm yourself maybe not physically or mentally or emotionally.
Host:So.
Host:And I think that you have to then move yourself to your inside edge.
Host:We'll talk about that maybe a little bit.
Mac:Could it be that going rogue begins with a journey of a relationship with yourself knowing yourself inside and out?
Mac:It starts before the hero goes on the journey.
Mac:The hero has to get in touch with who they are on the inside the warrior on the inside.
Mac:I've got to get in touch with who I really am.
Mac:I was created as and what I can be before I ever take that step.
Mac:That means that's the bank account I talk about.
Mac:You have regular visits with your divine self.
Mac:Not just God, but God doing business at the point of view.
Host:Yeah.
Mac:Then your roguishness is just following the leading of God and not just willy nilly, throwing caution to the wind.
Host:Actually got it on the agenda to do a two part series very much along those lines, rev, that we're gonna talk about how it flows through you.
Host:How the divine that you already have will flow through you into the world.
Host:And we're gonna do a two part.
Mac:See, when you know, when you know yourself and you have a relationship with yourself, you can make a very conscious decision that you're willing to give the world more of you because you're confident and comfortable in your own skin.
Mac:And then you let yourself be seen.
Mac:You allow yourself here, world.
Mac:Here I am, I'm here to be seen.
Mac:And I'm not ashamed and I'm not apologizing for who I am because I'm so confident in my God self, my spiritual self.
Host:Right, right.
Mac:Yeah, you guys do that.
Mac:You guys are good at that.
Mac:Well, thank you.
Host:We all do.
Host:I mean, you know, I got to.
Host:We wouldn't be sitting here if we didn't.
Stu:Yeah, right.
Host:Well, what is, what is rogue?
Host:Maybe, you know, what does that mean?
Host:Maybe we need to even just back up just a little bit and say.
Stu:Well, roguing, going rogue against, you know, against the grain.
Stu:Not with, not what people expect or what you even might expect or what the world might expect.
Stu:I mean it's.
Host:Yeah.
Stu:It's doing something different and, and we're taking the word rogue into the positive realm.
Host:Well, that's what I.
Host:Yeah, I want to kind of make that distinction here.
Stu:That's how we're looking at it.
Stu:That this is what we do.
Mac:For me, the mindset of going rogue has to be a benefit to more than just me.
Stu:Yeah.
Mac:It's not anybody getting hurt.
Mac:It's not tearing anything down.
Mac:It's about making the world a better place.
Host:Absolutely.
Mac:And that means getting out of the old habits, all the old patterns and confronting my old wounds, relationship with my wounds, a relationship with my strength so that I can make the world a better place.
Host:Yeah.
Host:Yeah.
Host:Well, you know, it's that whole idea that you're going off the reservation, you're going off your comfort reservation.
Host:Okay.
Host:Because it's going to take that or it's going to be same old, same old.
Host:We are going to talk about that as well.
Mac:Not only your own, but your family's reservation, the cultural norms that maybe are not serving the world anymore.
Mac:You got to confront them.
Host:Right.
Host:Well, Stu's wearing the.
Host:Stu's got the merch on tonight.
Stu:I do.
Stu:I'm going rogue on my hat.
Host:So just be proud of it, man.
Host:Just, you know, be proud, but don't be arrogant.
Host:Yeah, but be proud because guess what?
Host:When you start to exhibit this and you, you know, you press in, you send out that energy, you're going to attract people to you.
Host:They're going to want some of what you got.
Host:And I mean, you get to go on this mission.
Host:We're going to talk about that.
Mac:That sounds like an incredible segue.
Mac:You just laid it out to me on the silver plat.
Mac:So the next thing is to go find like minded roguers.
Host:It did, didn't it?
Mac:Or just be available for them to find you.
Mac:You know, vibration seeks its own water seeks its own level.
Mac:And I think we talk a lot about the tribe of five.
Mac:When you are vibrating at a certain level of being, you are naturally going to magnetize and attract people to you.
Mac:But how much more powerful if they're looking for you and you're looking for them?
Mac:Boy, you can create a team.
Host:Wait, that's a coincidence.
Mac:A coincidence?
Host:Yeah.
Host:No, we don't believe in that word.
Mac:It's a divine appointment.
Mac:People, you know, go find people who are thinking the way you want to think, living the way you want to live and being the way you want to be.
Mac:Be proactive about changing your world.
Mac:Don't sit around and wait for them to come to you.
Mac:Meet in the middle, right?
Stu:They are out there.
Host:Yes.
Stu:Have you ever been like in a seminar or some big group, let's say there's a lot of people in it, right?
Stu:And you have a question and you don't want to ask it like you're afra paid to ask it, right.
Stu:And then you get the courage up and you ask the question and about 10 other people like, oh my gosh, I had that same question, or however many, you know, that's, that's your tribe right there.
Stu:There they are.
Stu:Right.
Stu:And if you had never taken action and spoken up and you know, and just had that courage to just take that step forward in the face of your fear, you might not have found them.
Stu:So that's another way you can find your tribe of five.
Stu:You know, the world is waiting for.
Mac:Us to channel Our heroic being, our heroic essence, to ask the question, to take the first step, and they will be there to follow you and say, thank God you had the guts to do it, because I haven't.
Mac:It gives permission to other people to be more of themselves.
Host:Yeah.
Host:And you are affirming them, you know, which is really cool.
Host:So here's an example of this very same thing on Sunday.
Host:Right.
Host:Which is yesterday, because we're doing this on Monday this week.
Host:And so the Rev is up there and he said, you know what, you need to just start.
Host:You need to start asking the questions.
Host:You know, you start asking, you know, different questions is what he was talking about.
Host:And then he put it out there to the.
Host:To all of us.
Host:And he said, so when you do that, what happens?
Host:You said that, Right.
Host:And some of the people said, well, you get, you know, you get different answers.
Host:Right.
Host:And that was one of them.
Host:Well, I was sitting kind of in the back and I said, you get more questions.
Mac:Give the guy a lollipop.
Mac:He got the right answer.
Mac:I was looking for.
Host:And so the guy sitting in front of me, though, there's this guy sitting in front of me.
Host:He turns around, he goes, who said that?
Mac:Okay.
Host:And I said, that was me.
Stu:Oh, yeah.
Host:Oh, yeah, you're exactly right.
Host:He was just laughing with me.
Stu:Of course it was Mac that said that.
Stu:Of course.
Host:So it was pretty fun.
Host:So there it is.
Mac:Now, are you always going to find people that resonate with you?
Mac:Are you going to find people that are like, oh, I want to argue with you, I want to put you down, I want to step down.
Mac:You got to be prepared.
Host:Yep, you do.
Mac:Is that a good silver platter for the next one?
Host:Together is better.
Host:I mean, we say that all the time.
Host:Okay.
Host:You know, and.
Host:And we've just been talking about it, but I'll highlight it once again.
Host:The Rev was saying, I'll just put a little bit different words.
Host:You need to go have the conversations because there's really difficult to find these people if they don't have.
Host:I mean, they're not going to just come and knock on your front door and sit down in your living room.
Host:All right?
Host:Just.
Host:They're going to listen to you like a guy in church.
Mac:You know what the most courageous part of this is, though?
Mac:You become like the people you're hanging out with.
Host:Yeah.
Mac:And if you look around and the people are not behaving or speaking or acting the way you want to be, you may have to cut your losses.
Mac:So going rogue and finding, like, mind minded rogue or something may mean having to move to a new environment, to a new group, a new experience and then creating the new experience.
Mac:And you may have to have some grief involved in this.
Mac:Being rogue.
Mac:Being the rogue may involve some grief and that's okay.
Mac:Yeah, that takes.
Mac:Guys.
Host:Well, that's a good lead in here.
Stu:Yeah.
Stu:Right, right.
Stu:So, so the, so so far we've decided to go rogue.
Stu:We, we found our like minded roguers.
Host:Yes, we have.
Stu:And now we're going to strap on the armor.
Stu:So what does that look, I mean we know what that looks like in, you know, in battle.
Stu:I mean it's like physical armor that protects your body, you know, that kind of a thing.
Stu:But this to us is more about protecting your, your mind, your thoughts, maybe even your, your heart.
Stu:You know, guarding it.
Stu:And not that you don't take chances, but still there's, there's gotta be some guardrails that are, that are set up in your life.
Stu:You know, Think about a guardrail, right?
Stu:It's like when you're on the highway, there's a guardrail up, right.
Stu:It's not, it's not in the danger, right.
Stu:The guardrail, right.
Stu:It's before you reach the danger.
Host:Yeah.
Stu:So that's, that's, that's what I'm talking about with these guardrails you set up in, in your life, which could be part of your, your armor.
Stu:You set it up and whatever that is, you know, you adhere to it and it, and it helps you not to end up in the danger zone.
Mac:You know, what my guardrails are, is my moral compass, my standards of integrity, my non negotiables in my life.
Mac:If I keep true and in relationship with those things, you can call them God if you are, I'm going to be held safe.
Mac:They will be my guardrails because my connection to God will keep me safe from any danger.
Mac:If God is for you, nothing can be against you.
Host:Right.
Mac:And so that moral compass and my standards of integrity keep me on the straight and narrow.
Host:Well, sometimes you want to just discount this one item altogether, you know.
Host:And again, if we're not careful as we lean in, as we go to our inside edge, as we push our own boundaries, you know, we can't be so number one arrogant or naive to think that there isn't going to be struggle, we've talked about that.
Host:There isn't going to be challenge, there isn't going to be things that you're going to fail at.
Host:There isn't going to be things that are going to be you're going to have to overcome that.
Host:You're going to.
Host:I mean, that's all part of this deal.
Host:And you do need to protect yourself.
Host:Not from other people per se, but from the influence of them, because they're going to.
Host:It's going to hurt.
Host:And that's okay to be vulnerable.
Host:I mean, that's all part of this vulnerability is part of this whole thing.
Host:But at the same time, do the work ahead of time so that you can maintain poise again.
Host:Rev said it.
Host:Integrity.
Host:And you've got to do these things.
Host:I love the example that you gave.
Host:Examples of guardrails, examples of how we stay focused, we stay grounded, we meditate, we meet with others, we get encouragement, we have accountability.
Host:These are all parts of protecting you from yourself, almost.
Mac:Well, I think that's got to be from yourself.
Mac:You know, I look at the master teacher, he said, make your yes, your yes, your no, your no, and don't wiggle on that.
Mac:Be clear about what it is, is yours to do and what is not yours to do.
Mac:And if you can keep your eyes single and eye on the ball or at the end of the tunnel, the light, you will be safe and protected.
Mac:It's when we get distracted, the human mind, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, that we lose track of our purpose, where we get in trouble.
Mac:We're storming the gates, you know, which is our next point.
Mac:But we don't know where we're storming.
Mac:And could it be that the gates that we're storming are internal?
Mac:You put it out there.
Mac:Do I have to put armor against my human ego?
Mac:Do I have to put armor on to keep from being pulled off course?
Mac:Right, left.
Mac:Every single moment of the day, every breath.
Mac:So what are the gates that we are storming?
Host:Well, let's take a little.
Host:Let's.
Host:We're going to.
Host:You're going to call to action first.
Mac:All right.
Host:Yeah, you know, we got to.
Host:Let's back up a little bit.
Host:And I'm just so ready to storm the gates.
Host:He's excited.
Host:He's storming already.
Host:He's storming already.
Host:I love that, though.
Host:He's ready to go.
Host:That's why I love this guy.
Host:Okay.
Host:He can't hardly keep him down.
Host:So.
Host:All right, so we, you know, we.
Host:There's so much more we could talk about in each one of these things, and we talk about them all the time, the three of us.
Host:So we'd love to hear if you're going to engage in any of this stuff, how you're kicking it around and what kind of conversations you're having with your friends and your folks.
Host:Okay.
Host:Because this is a pretty cool journey.
Host:This is a pretty good mission, right, to go on.
Host:So with that, we're going to finish out with our other few points, but we're going to take a break first.
Host:We're going to just take an exhale here and then let you have a little bit of stimulation there.
Host:We're going to do a little promo maybe, you know, what the heck.
Host:And then we'll be back real quickly.
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Reverend:Now let's get back to our Wise Guys.
Host:All right, welcome back to the Wise Guys, where this week, this episode, we are going through our sort of Mission Impossible five points that we talk about every week at the end of our episodes, but we're really fleshing them out a little bit more.
Host:It's been really fun to this point.
Host:And sort of during the break here, we were kicking around a little bit more of this strap on the armor and the rev brought up a really good again, internal protection against almost yourself.
Host:But the dragon.
Mac:Right.
Mac:What if the dragon that you need to be aware of, I don't want to say afraid of, is within you more than it is external.
Host:Right.
Mac:And I think a lot of people are so worried about what's.
Mac:I like to carry a consciousness that nobody and nothing is against me.
Mac:And I find that that consciousness, that vibration is, you know, vanquishing the enemies on the outside, but boy, do I have to confront the enemies on the inside.
Mac:You know, what's the old cartoon that said we've met the enemy and it.
Host:Is us and it is us.
Stu:So true.
Host:You know, I've told the story before about my journey where I absolutely just was in a rock bottom place a few years back and my cousin told me about the hero's journey.
Host:And there's this documentary out there called Finding Joe.
Host:And you know, in that whole journey there, as I was watching it at the very kind of toward the end, it was.
Host:They were fighting and then each of them, you know, unmasked.
Host:And it was the same person.
Host:It was the dragon and it was the knight and it was the same fighting.
Stu:Fighting himself.
Stu:That's right.
Host:It was the same person, you know, and that really, that really did something for me in that time that just like the Rev was talking about that you really have to look upon and you don't fight it.
Host:You say, it's me, you know, it's me in my entirety.
Host:You know, I gotta quit putting out the negative energy, trying to battle it and just embrace it and do my best to incorporate it and do a.
Stu:Little bit better, you know, so, you know, it's interest.
Stu:It's interesting because what.
Stu:When people, when I see and hear people being judgmental and they're saying.
Stu:Talking about somebody else, like they may say something to me about another person.
Stu:Right, right.
Stu:What, What.
Stu:What they don't realize they're doing is they're actually seeing in that other person what is true inside themselves.
Mac:If you spot it, you've got it.
Mac:I said for the good and the not so good.
Mac:So about the people that say, I just hate judgmental people.
Stu:Yeah.
Mac:Oh, I think you're one of them.
Host:Oh, all right.
Stu:So, well.
Stu:But it's really interesting to pay attention to that.
Stu:And now that I've said it, anybody that's heard this, when they hear somebody doing this, they're gonna see exactly what I'm talking about, you know?
Host:Yeah.
Stu:They're gonna hear what I'm talking about.
Stu:I mean, it's.
Stu:So this is part of what helps you to get that do the work you need to do to be able to go through these points we're talking about.
Stu:Right.
Host:You gotta know your truth.
Host:I mean, you really do.
Host:Revs mentioned that already, you know, that.
Host:That you got to get grounded in what you truly believe, what's true and what's righteous and what's right and that.
Host:And you know what?
Host:Here's the other thing about that we talked about a lot and just do one thing.
Host:I think I did a meme one time that I said the truth is the truth until it's not.
Host:You know, I mean, for all of us, we need to hold it semi loosely so that now you may drop a stake in the ground and your truth may be the whole lot, your whole life.
Host:And that serves you well.
Host:And it is what it is, is, and it never changes.
Host:But there's other things in your life that you know, you might hold true five years ago or ten years ago or even yesterday, that over time, as long as you're doing your work and your consciousness is being raised, you're going to go, you know what?
Host:That served me then, but not anymore.
Mac:So that consciousness then is when we Say, storm the gates.
Mac:Storm the gates is not about necessarily tearing something.
Mac:It's an awareness, an epiphany, and a revelation that what I've been thinking no longer serves me right.
Mac:So am I storming the gates of my limitation, the limitations that I have accepted?
Mac:Am I storming the gates of my own fears, my apathy, my doubt and my fear?
Mac:And I wrote this.
Mac:Storming the gates of old stories and habits that need to be banished from the kingdom of my consciousness and my experience.
Host:Oh, replay that.
Mac:I need to banish the stinking thinking from my kingdom.
Stu:Yeah, that's good.
Host:Oh, replay that, gang.
Host:Okay, there it is.
Mac:Storm the gates of any fortress you've built around your heart that's keeping you imprisoned.
Stu:Oh, wow.
Stu:That's good.
Stu:Yeah, that's really good.
Mac:It's not easy.
Mac:Everybody tell you it's good to say, but, man, some days it's hard to.
Stu:Do, but let me tell you, everybody has this.
Host:Yes.
Stu:No one is going to escape this.
Host:No.
Stu:But being able to.
Stu:To get beyond, to storm that gate, to get beyond it is just acknowledging or recognizing what it is.
Host:Very true.
Mac:And that's your strength.
Mac:You can acknowledge it takes courage and bravery and guts and strength.
Mac:And it's not weak.
Mac:And the world has told you that's weakness.
Mac:To be that humble and to make apology for something that you did, that's a good holy thing.
Stu:Again, I have to make the point that everyone is courageous.
Stu:It doesn't mean that you don't have fear.
Stu:It just means that you take that step forward.
Stu:Yep.
Stu:In the fear.
Host:Yeah.
Stu:That's being courageous.
Stu:Everybody can.
Stu:Everybody can and is doing this.
Host:Yes.
Mac:I sing a song sometimes I feel the fear and do it anyway I feel the fear and do it anyway Here we go.
Host:Sing it right.
Mac:We're gonna have.
Stu:Are we gonna do a musical episode?
Mac:Sometimes.
Stu:Like, sometimes.
Stu:Sometimes TV shows will have an episode.
Stu:That's all music.
Stu:We need to do one of those.
Host:We gotta get Natalie in on that.
Stu:That would be amazing.
Host:We gotta get the first mystic sorceress.
Mac:Storm the king.
Stu:Get someone that can actually sing.
Stu:The rep can sing, but I don't know about Mac and Stu.
Host:I'm allowed it.
Host:Okay.
Stu:Yeah, we're gonna be the rappers.
Host:I'm gonna lip sync it.
Host:You know.
Host:You know, here's what came to my mind.
Host:We were talking about storming the gates, too.
Host:This whole conversation.
Host:A lot of times when you.
Host:You have these internal gates that you have to storm, like, we've just been talking about, guess what?
Host:They're not even locked Right, right.
Host:They're not.
Host:I mean, all you got to do is just.
Host:Not me.
Host:You don't even have to necessarily storm them, just open them up.
Host:Okay.
Host:You know, we get bound and we get confined, and we.
Host:Because of the stories we tell ourselves.
Stu:Check this out, right?
Stu:Mac and Rev.
Stu:Oh, sometimes these gates are mirages.
Host:Oh.
Mac:That'Ll even exist.
Mac:That'll preach Brother.
Host:Man Stew.
Mac:That was like.
Host:I gotta ponder that.
Mac:Is it sometimes they're mirages, or are they always.
Stu:It could always be, but it's an illusion.
Host:That's with.
Host:This is stories we tell ourselves.
Host:They're not really even real.
Host:Right.
Host:Oh, wow.
Host:So, okay.
Host:He just rocked my world.
Host:All right.
Host:Right there.
Host:Thank you for that, Coach.
Mac:Change your story.
Mac:Change your life.
Mac:Change your mirage.
Host:Change.
Stu:We need to get mirage into a meme.
Stu:Oh, yeah, it's a good word to be in a meme.
Host:Well, you know, as we're storming the gates, those.
Host:We're going to use this analogy.
Host:When you do the things that we were just talking about that we've just been kicking around right here, then guess what ripple effect that has.
Host:You know, people begin.
Host:Students say this all the time.
Host:Everybody's watching.
Host:Everybody's just, like, always watching.
Host:Okay?
Host:And now you begin to put on an energy, a poise, a confidence, a spirituality.
Host:You dispel, you dissolve a lot of these things that people gravitate and they sink into, like apathy and fear.
Host:You know, these things, you don't even have to have a therapy session with them.
Mac:They're paying attention, and you may never even meet these people, but they're looking at it and they're watching.
Mac:They go, I want what Mac is.
Host:Yes.
Mac:I want what the coach is doing.
Mac:I want a piece of that.
Host:Yes.
Stu:You know what's interesting about this concept, people watching is, you know, sometimes I've heard people say, okay, what would you do if your mom was right here watching you, like right now?
Stu:Would you act this way or say these things?
Stu:Right.
Stu:So, I mean, sometimes it.
Stu:So in the.
Stu:It's.
Stu:It's kind of like you.
Stu:You want to do better.
Stu:Like, you want to do life better if you think somebody is watching you.
Stu:So here's.
Stu:Here's the wise guy wizard to do better when nobody is watching.
Host:Yep.
Stu:Right.
Host:That's to become.
Host:That's the being thing.
Host:You just.
Stu:You just.
Mac:That's integrity.
Mac:Gandhi had some quote about that.
Mac:Is so you.
Mac:How you behave when you think nobody's looking.
Host:That's right, man.
Mac:That's integrity.
Mac:That's the guardrail.
Host:Right, right, right.
Host:Well, yes, and the other thing I think you do by is you take action.
Host:This is what we're talking about.
Host:And one other thought about the guardrail, I was thinking when we were talking about that because we've talked about guardrails for years.
Host:I love the way you said that.
Host:You put the guardrail right there at the edge of, you know, the danger.
Stu:Right.
Host:But if you're on the road, there's also this area between the road and the guardrail.
Host:All right, so yeah, okay, you've been in that area.
Mac:Rev, I plead the fifth.
Host:So.
Host:But that's really, really cool.
Host:I hadn't even, I wasn't even going there.
Host:But there's this.
Host:Here I am in the lane and things are going well and that sounds good and the wheels are rolling and I'm on track but I start to get a little bit off course and I get a warning bump.
Mac:Dum dum.
Host:There's a, it's not even a guardrail yet.
Host:It's the warning sign.
Host:Thump, thump, thump, thump, thump, thump thump.
Stu:Like you were talking about warning signal.
Stu:Yep.
Host:You know, and so we have these things in our life that if we're paying attention to them and if we put these things in place and if we enlist the help of others, you know, we got a lot of bandwidth here before the literal wheels come off.
Mac:Yeah.
Mac:So those guardrails, it could have been your mom on the left and your dad on the right and they're letting you get just far enough into danger for you to learn a lesson.
Mac:But you're going to be safe.
Mac:I'm going to call that those guardrails.
Mac:God, God is not going to interfere with your process, but you're going to be held through it all and it's going to get bumpy, it's going to get difficult, but you're going to be held safe.
Stu:Yeah.
Host:Did you ask.
Host:The rhetorical question is yes, I'm going to say yes.
Host:Okay.
Host:Very cool.
Host:I love it.
Host:So, all right, so we decided to go rogue.
Host:We find our like minded roguers, we strap on the armor.
Host:What a great conversation that was.
Host:We're storming the gates and golly, internal and external, I mean we're just coming up with all sorts of.
Host:I hope you guys are picking up on these little wisdom them nuggets, because I am, because I hadn't thought through all this kind of stuff.
Host:And so if that's part of your process and if you're going through this, that at some point in the process, at some point, guess what, you will unleash the unthinkable, Release the Kraken.
Host:That's it.
Host:You've just unfettered.
Host:Boom.
Host:Right?
Host:It just, you know, launched into space.
Host:What is that?
Host:You know, fire all of your guns at once and explode into space.
Host:You're gonna.
Host:And what it is, it's unthinkable to you.
Stu:Yes.
Host:Because you've gone through all of this and you've lived it and you've struggled with it and blah, blah, you know, do, do, do if you've done those four things.
Host:And here's the other thing to remember, all right, we did, we said this wasn't a checklist.
Host:Right.
Host:It's.
Host:It's a morphing, it's a process.
Host:It's a little bit of one and some of four.
Host:And you're going over here and you're going.
Host:I mean, you don't move through A and then you go to B and then you go to C.
Host:Ok, that's right.
Host:It's not linear.
Host:All right?
Host:So all along the way, you will begin to unleash unthinkable things, starting with you.
Host:You're going to start thinking differently.
Host:You're going to start having a different perspective.
Host:You're going to shake your head and you're going to go, what the hell am I doing here?
Host:I mean, I don't know what.
Host:I mean, what you know.
Host:And then there's going to be the things that you affect out there that you're going to unleash unbelievable, unthinkable things in others as you just proclaim your new truths or whatever.
Host:I mean, it's a process.
Host:It's beautiful.
Stu:You'll inspire people.
Host:Yes, yes, you will.
Host:Plus you'll piss some of people off.
Host:Okay, that's part of it too.
Stu:Right?
Stu:But those are both types of inspiration.
Host:It's all change.
Mac:You know, it's Einstein who said that you cannot solve a problem from the same level of thinking that got you to the place where you are currently at.
Mac:You can't create the miracle.
Mac:You can't create the new story.
Mac:You can't change your life from the same thinking that got you to where you are.
Mac:Be grateful I got here with this thinking.
Mac:Now I need to set it down so that I can become more, I can express more, do more, change more, be more positive, be a more positive effect on the world.
Mac:I'm going to have to set the boat down that got me across the river because now I don't need the boat anymore.
Host:Yeah.
Host:Thank you.
Host:But.
Host:Thank you.
Host:Okay.
Mac:And.
Host:But I'm moving.
Mac:I'm not even, but thank you.
Mac:And I'm building on it.
Host:I like that better.
Host:Okay, well, what was the meme that you had kind of stimulated to me on?
Host:It was like something like, God, the truth will set you free, but it's guaranteed to piss you off.
Stu:Yeah, right.
Stu:It's gonna piss you off first.
Stu:Yeah, right.
Stu:Okay.
Host:That's pretty much.
Mac:Sometimes the truth is a very bitter pill to swallow.
Stu:It's like, oh, man.
Stu:That's one of those moments where it's like, I don't want to know this, but now I know it, and I can't unknow it now.
Stu:And that's what is now.
Stu:I've got to deal with that.
Mac:A mind once stretched can never return to its original shape.
Stu:Yes.
Mac:Oh, gosh.
Mac:Okay, now I know what I know I can't go back to living the.
Host:Old way, but, you know, there was this very specific, poignant moment in our history.
Host:Stu.
Host:I don't even know what we were talking about.
Host:I don't remember.
Host:Okay.
Host:But it was in those times.
Host:It was in those years where his mind was, like, ready to explode, you know, everything we were talking about.
Host:And I will just never forget this.
Host:You just going, no, no, no.
Host:I can't unknow that.
Host:But it was real.
Host:I mean, it was like, yeah, that was beautiful.
Host:Okay, so.
Host:So unleashing the unthinkable, what are the kind of things.
Host:Does it take?
Host:Takes courage.
Stu:Oh, yeah.
Stu:Oh, yeah.
Host:Right.
Host:We've already kind of hit on that a little.
Stu:Right, Right.
Host:But you're gonna have to be courageous as you do the.
Host:The different.
Host:Do the different.
Host:That might be part of a meme, too.
Stu:Do the different.
Host:Right.
Stu:Do the do.
Mac:And I have to say, every one of these, you know, it's not linear, but it is circular.
Mac:So we're going around like a marble around a circle, experiencing any one of these ideas or points at any given point, and it's going to require us to suspend who we have been, to become who we're going to be.
Mac:And it's going to involve fear, plain and simple.
Mac:It's uncomfortable.
Mac:As we always talk about, you got to get comfortable with the uncomfortable.
Mac:You got to be okay with crawling out of your skin, out of your life, and to just go, okay, I don't know what the mystery holds here, but I'm willing to explore.
Host:Right, Absolutely.
Host:And, you know, and as you do that, if you want to have poise, if you want to have credibility, I'll call it as you're just, you know, if you're doing this you need to have what I'll call is an apologetic.
Host:I mean, you need to be able to articulate as well as emulate.
Host:You know, that your energy is going to just be natural.
Host:It's just going to go out there.
Host:But at the same time, your journey is your journey.
Host:Your story is your story, as beautiful as it is, and you're going to be more effective both for yourself, the stories you tell yourself, as well as the stories that you will tell others about your journey.
Host:That's important, too, that you think through that, that you're able to articulate it, that you're able to be exciting and lean in and have people interested, you know, in.
Host:In what's going on with you.
Host:So as you're unleashing this unthinkable stuff for them, help them start to think about it easier.
Stu:Yeah, and I want to.
Stu:I want to.
Stu:And I want to encourage people to not wait for that to be perfect before you start.
Stu:You got to start practicing it right away.
Stu:It'll.
Stu:It'll mold itself.
Stu:It's kind of like if you've ever written anything, you know, I'm not even.
Stu:I'm not saying a book, but anything you've written, like, you know, you write it, you sit on it, you know, you maybe make some changes.
Stu:Like, you just.
Stu:You got to keep in action.
Stu:You got to keep doing it, practicing it, right?
Stu:And it'll.
Stu:It'll transform into.
Stu:Into who you are.
Stu:I mean, this is what's happened for me over the years.
Mac:I mean, one of you guys say this.
Mac:I've heard this.
Mac:Perfect is the enemy of better.
Mac:If you're striving for perfection, you're just paralyzed.
Mac:You never take an action.
Mac:Just do more than zero as we talk.
Mac:Just a little bit better.
Mac:That's good enough for today.
Mac:Do it.
Mac:Your pace.
Stu:I like it.
Host:Well, and then.
Host:Yes.
Host:And the expectation.
Host:We talk about this all the time, too.
Host:That get away from the expectation of an absolute.
Host:All right, it's not about absolute.
Host:The minute you're just like, stu, this all goes in here.
Host:The minute you want absoluteness in any outcome, right?
Host:We talk about this, about just seeing the greatest degree of degree of clarity that you can come up with and then get off the damn dime.
Host:Okay?
Stu:So.
Stu:So let's move it, man.
Stu:Coach Stu here again, Coach Stu.
Stu:So here, let me tell you what I talk to my parents about.
Stu:I get this question all the time, you know, new wrestler.
Stu:It's like, okay, when are they ready to compete?
Stu:I'm like, now.
Stu:They're like, well, they've only been to a few practices.
Stu:I'm like, no, no.
Stu:And the only way we're going to learn learn is for him to.
Stu:Is for them to get into action.
Stu:Like, to start just doing it.
Stu:And then.
Stu:Then they'll realize, oh, this is what competition feels like.
Stu:And, oh, like that other wrestler really wants to beat me.
Stu:And they know what that feels like now.
Stu:And they can make, you know, so then it helps them in their growth.
Stu:So it's the same thing with all of this.
Stu:You just have to just start now.
Stu:Like, why?
Stu:Why?
Stu:Like, what are you waiting for?
Stu:Like, don't wait.
Stu:No, don't get in the game, man.
Stu:Get in the game, says the coach.
Mac:And fail and fall and become worse.
Stu:That's how you learn.
Mac:Failed.
Stu:That's how you learn and grow.
Host:Victory moments.
Host:I mean, it's all.
Host:You know, those are good, too.
Host:So, again, in this journey, in this story, in this unleashing the unthinkable.
Host:All right, keep it.
Host:Here's my advice.
Host:Because I had to learn this.
Host:It wasn't always the way I was right.
Host:Less information.
Host:Less.
Host:Not zero.
Host:More than zero information.
Host:Because you got to give people information.
Host:Whether.
Host:But stress.
Host:What?
Host:80, 20 rule.
Host:Yeah, that's 20.
Host:The information is like 20%.
Host:The 80% is inspiration.
Stu:Ah, yes.
Host:That your story will inspire, like, that others, you know, because we're.
Host:We're full of information.
Host:We can go all sorts of places and get information.
Host:All right?
Host:But, boy, people are gonna really be affected and changed by you and your life.
Host:If you can inspire them.
Mac:Don't do it just for yourself.
Mac:Somebody is waiting for you to be the first person to raise your hand and ask the question.
Mac:Somebody is waiting for you to storm the gate and to be vulnerable enough, and they're like, thank God you showed up.
Mac:You are the savior.
Mac:You are the hero.
Mac:You are the person I needed to stretch myself.
Host:Yes.
Host:Somebody needs you.
Host:Well, I agree with that, for sure.
Host:You know, it's been great, guys.
Host:I love it.
Host:What do you think?
Host:Anything?
Host:Any closing thoughts?
Host:Anything?
Host:Wow.
Stu:Normally, this is what we talk about at the end.
Mac:I know.
Host:We just did it.
Host:So I'm just going to get into the vibe of this thing.
Mac:You can read the words backwards and see what happens.
Stu:It's not linear, so it's okay.
Host:Yeah, exactly.
Host:Going in a circle.
Host:So, so enjoyed tonight.
Host:You know, this.
Host:This was great.
Host:This was great.
Stu:You could do this.
Stu:You could go backwards.
Stu:I was just reading it backwards.
Stu:You could do that.
Host:You could, couldn't you?
Stu:It would.
Stu:That would be amazing.
Mac:Rogue go to decide Rogers minded, like find.
Mac:I sound like Tarzan.
Stu:I don't mean like that.
Host:Start at the end and work your way.
Stu:I mean unleash the unthinkable.
Host:Yeah, right.
Host:Well, we're, we're having our thinkable possible impossible mission here this week, everybody.
Host:So we've had a lot of fun with it, guys.
Host:As always, man, I learned from each one of you every single day.
Host:Same to you.
Mac:More of it, brother.
Host:Thank you.
Host:Okay, thank you both.
Host:Hey, thank you for listening to us again.
Host:We always hope that you've come away from this conversation just like we do with each other and you, you know, learn from us.
Host:Take some away.
Host:We'd love to hear hear your thoughts as always, you know, like us, share us, engage with us and come back.
Host:Come back next week where we're gonna do it one more time and be on mission.
Stu:Yes.
Host:Thanks a bunch, gang.
Host:We'll see you next week.
Stu:Yeah.
Reverend:Wow.
Reverend:You made it and can now unbuckle.
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Reverend:A conversation that encouraged you to go on a mission in the new year to go to your inside edge, change your thinking and see things differently.
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