Episode 44

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30th Jan 2025

Your Vibe Attracts Your Tribe: Are You the Person You're Looking For?

This episode dives deep into the concept of embracing failures as essential stepping stones to growth. The hosts explore how our mindset can influence the connections we make, emphasizing that people who seek to build bridges will naturally gravitate toward one another. Amidst engaging anecdotes and lively banter, they discuss the importance of being authentically yourself, urging listeners to reflect on their personal vibes and how those attract their tribes. With humor and insight, they tackle the notion that mistakes are not only inevitable but also valuable learning experiences that pave the way for greater understanding and resilience. Join the conversation as they challenge you to unzip your fears and fully embrace the unique individual you are meant to be.

Takeaways:

  • Building bridges and fostering connections with others can create a sense of community.
  • The mindset of seeking connection will attract like-minded individuals into your life.
  • Embracing your individuality and authenticity is crucial for personal growth and fulfillment.
  • Failure should be viewed as a valuable learning opportunity rather than something to fear.
  • Your vibe attracts your tribe; projecting positivity can draw similar people into your life.
  • It's essential to engage with diverse perspectives in order to deepen your understanding of others.

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Transcript
Speaker A:

I can really feel comfortable with anybody that comes my way.

Speaker B:

This world is full of bridge builders like you, like me, like the three of us sitting here.

Speaker B:

And there's more people out there.

Speaker B:

And when you're mindset, people who are looking to build a bridge will find us.

Speaker C:

That's a taste of the wisdom nuggets.

Speaker C:

This week's episode of Going Rogue, a podcast that unleashes the unthinkable in culture, religion, business, and everyday life.

Speaker C:

We even sneak in some politics now and then to keep things interesting.

Speaker C:

So it's time to strap in and let's see how far you are willing to let NAC and the team stretch you to your edge of thinking differently.

Speaker D:

Welcome to Going Rogue, the podcast where we unleash the unthinkable to help us see things differently, do things differently, and influence our culture for the greater good.

Speaker D:

Welcome.

Speaker D:

I'm Mac, your host, and I got with me my buds, man.

Speaker D:

I got Coach Stu here.

Speaker A:

Hey, how's it going, Mac?

Speaker D:

Hey, Rev.

Speaker B:

Good to see you.

Speaker B:

I'm ready to get out of the box.

Speaker A:

Let's do it.

Speaker D:

Got the Rev.

Speaker D:

Everybody's just grinding at it, man.

Speaker D:

We're just jumping at it.

Speaker D:

We want to go rogue.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

And tonight's going to be a really fun one.

Speaker D:

Before I intro.

Speaker D:

Before I intro this session, this, this episode, and kind of some of the stuff we're going to talk about.

Speaker A:

But, Mac, before we get started, first of all, let me say hello to all of you exotic cocktails out there.

Speaker A:

I love that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So I have some news to share.

Speaker D:

All right, what is it?

Speaker A:

So we launched recently.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And we are now being listened to in the United States.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

That's expected.

Speaker A:

That's where we are.

Speaker A:

I hope so.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

I would hope we'd have a couple of listeners here.

Speaker B:

My mom's listening.

Speaker A:

Check this out.

Speaker A:

We have two other countries that are listening to us.

Speaker A:

Canada and Mexico.

Speaker B:

Hey.

Speaker A:

So welcome all of you people from Canada and Mexico.

Speaker A:

Yes, we appreciate you all being here.

Speaker D:

And go tell all your friends.

Speaker B:

How do you say going rogue in Spanish?

Speaker B:

I better learn.

Speaker A:

Gosh, I should have prepared Underlay.

Speaker D:

Underdogs.

Speaker A:

We should just stop because we're not gonna get it.

Speaker B:

We're about to lose our audience in Mexico.

Speaker D:

Okay, I'm done right there.

Speaker D:

You're right.

Speaker D:

Okay, Good enough said there.

Speaker D:

All right.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker A:

I'm really excited that we've reached peace.

Speaker A:

People outside of our own country.

Speaker A:

That's amazing.

Speaker B:

We're all one.

Speaker B:

We're all thinking about the same things and ready to go to places where no one's gone before.

Speaker D:

Well, there it's going to get amazing.

Speaker D:

It will become amazing.

Speaker D:

It's already amazing at how much there's a common resonance.

Speaker D:

It doesn't matter where you live, the matter country you live in or whatever.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

We're of the human.

Speaker D:

We have the human condition no matter where we are, and we're going to resonate with one another.

Speaker D:

So it's really exciting to hear these stories that come from not necessarily our home culture.

Speaker D:

So thanks for listening, really.

Speaker B:

And we want to hear your voice too.

Speaker D:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

Get on that blog and get on that website and let us hear you from you.

Speaker D:

Get in the cafe.

Speaker D:

Definitely.

Speaker D:

And let us know how this is running through your grid, your cultural grid, your, you know, faith grid, your whatever grid.

Speaker D:

Okay?

Speaker D:

It's.

Speaker D:

It's a lot.

Speaker D:

It's fun, and that's what this is all about.

Speaker D:

So here we are.

Speaker D:

And again, I'm gonna up, guys.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

Here, gonna run a little bit.

Speaker B:

Come on, Max, spit it out.

Speaker D:

A little bit of a rabbit trail.

Speaker D:

I know I kind of prepped you a little bit for this already.

Speaker D:

But before we again get into this episode, we just did an episode on and on.

Speaker D:

We called it on the unthinkable.

Speaker D:

God.

Speaker D:

Right?

Speaker D:

We just, we just did that episode.

Speaker D:

And so in that episode, we.

Speaker D:

We gave some perspectives that were a little bit different maybe than the mainstream, you know, how we tend to look at God, if you will.

Speaker D:

And we did mention we're going to do a follow up on that too, which is going to be fun.

Speaker D:

But in that same vein, as we're thinking about God, right?

Speaker D:

And you know, the character of God, I couldn't help this.

Speaker D:

I just want to throw it out.

Speaker D:

So here's a really good example of how some look at God.

Speaker D:

And this is what we were talking about last episode.

Speaker D:

So here was a headline that I saw this week.

Speaker D:

And you know, Lakewood Church out in Houston, Joel Osteen's church, you know, huge, big mega church, right?

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker D:

And they had a shooting there, tragically.

Speaker D:

I mean, a little guy.

Speaker D:

Little guy got shot.

Speaker D:

And, you know, those kinds of things are tragic.

Speaker D:

I don't care where.

Speaker D:

Where it happens.

Speaker D:

And we've seen this before, and it's not like it's unique to a church, unfortunately.

Speaker D:

But here's the headline that followed.

Speaker D:

You know, not.

Speaker D:

Not from the church, but from a publication out there.

Speaker D:

And here's what the headline.

Speaker D:

Why did God allow the Lakewood church shooting?

Speaker D:

Why?

Speaker D:

Why did God Allow that.

Speaker D:

And this, you know, this speaks to the bigger.

Speaker D:

Why does God let bad stuff happen to good people?

Speaker D:

Or what is God, let's bad stuff happen, period.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker A:

Did the article answer that question?

Speaker A:

Well, yes.

Speaker D:

See, here's the thing about that.

Speaker D:

You know, when you pose a question like that, then you expect that the article is going to have an answer.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker D:

Wouldn't you think?

Speaker D:

I mean, you know, hello.

Speaker D:

All right.

Speaker D:

And of course, there is no answer to that.

Speaker D:

All right.

Speaker D:

That just isn't.

Speaker D:

And yet I would propose that that's just totally asking the wrong question.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

That for us to even ponder how to answer that question is an adventure and missing the point.

Speaker D:

And it has absolutely.

Speaker D:

It.

Speaker D:

It skews the whole scenario and into again, a capricious God that why didn't he stop that shooting and stop.

Speaker D:

But stopped that one or that one over there?

Speaker D:

Or what's different about.

Speaker D:

And I don't mean just church.

Speaker D:

I mean anything, you know, or any calamity or any catastrophe.

Speaker D:

So, you know, again, when you read these kinds of things, the reason I'm bringing this up, we're not going to spend the episode on it.

Speaker D:

I just wanted to tie it back to the last episode.

Speaker D:

When you read something like this, I, I encourage you.

Speaker D:

My encouragement is just discount it.

Speaker D:

Discount it on down.

Speaker D:

And if you want to read the article, that's fine because really, the article talked about pain and suffering and how do you deal with the unknowns and stuff like that.

Speaker D:

Again, you don't come up with an answer.

Speaker D:

But maybe it makes you feel good that, you know, you're not alone and struggling with that kind of stuff.

Speaker D:

But what do you guys think, you know?

Speaker A:

Well, sometimes it, it like the way I think about this is like a stop sign.

Speaker A:

And a lot of times I don't stop for the stop sign.

Speaker A:

I keep going because I want to.

Speaker A:

I don't want to be stopped in my thinking.

Speaker A:

You know, like a phrase comes up or some trigger point, maybe a trigger phrase, trigger word.

Speaker A:

Something that might stop me from continuing and I might be able to get something out of this article.

Speaker A:

You know, you never know.

Speaker A:

At a minimum, I can relate to maybe the person who wrote it.

Speaker A:

And here's the thing that I, that I think about with this.

Speaker A:

God was there.

Speaker D:

Of course we did.

Speaker D:

That's what we said in the episode, didn't we?

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

That's what we.

Speaker A:

When we were talking about that and unthinkable God.

Speaker A:

I mean, God.

Speaker A:

God was there.

Speaker A:

And that's.

Speaker A:

And that's comforting.

Speaker A:

What happened isn't.

Speaker A:

Doesn't feel good.

Speaker A:

It isn't comforting.

Speaker A:

But you can at least find some comfort in knowing that God was there with you.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Yeah, agreed.

Speaker B:

Well, I like to look at that article.

Speaker B:

You know, I don't want to discount anything.

Speaker B:

I want to get into the skin and the mind and the heart of the person who put that title out there and begin to seek to understand before I go ahead and judge that it's an old concept, an old idea of God that has to die at some point.

Speaker B:

So let me just try to call into that guy's heart and see where he's coming from.

Speaker B:

Why is a really dangerous question.

Speaker B:

Why would God allow.

Speaker B:

I think a better question is, who am I meant to be with?

Speaker B:

What has happened here?

Speaker B:

And so I will be more kind and try to understand this guy's mindset and maybe make a brother, maybe reach out to him and say, hey, have you thought a different way?

Speaker B:

See, sometimes being a rogue isn't about discounting the other.

Speaker B:

It's about opening up a field and a bridge to connect with the other.

Speaker B:

And maybe, you know, a lot of people are standing on the top of the mountain yelling down at the people that are in the valley.

Speaker B:

I'm saying, I'm going to come down to the valley, I'm going to grab the guy's hand, and let's walk up the mountain together and get to a higher reality and a higher concept.

Speaker B:

So discounting the article, it may be very foreign to me, an alien, but hey, maybe there's something for me to learn here.

Speaker B:

And where the two minds come together, something greater can emerge.

Speaker D:

True.

Speaker D:

I love that.

Speaker A:

I do, too.

Speaker D:

That's great.

Speaker A:

And I know what we can do.

Speaker A:

We can send him a link to the unthinkable God episode and see if we can inspire him maybe to see things a tiny bit differently.

Speaker B:

You know, some people put things out there.

Speaker B:

Maybe this guy's just a rogue and he's putting it out there to poke the whole religious world a little bit just to get a reaction.

Speaker A:

That could be.

Speaker D:

Yeah, probably not.

Speaker D:

Not where the article came from, I don't think.

Speaker D:

But anyway, small.

Speaker A:

Possible.

Speaker D:

But, you know, you bring up a good point that, you know, if.

Speaker D:

If you're willing.

Speaker D:

And sometimes I'm not, I have to admit, sometimes I'm not.

Speaker D:

Sometimes I read stuff like that and I go, here we go again.

Speaker D:

Oh, great.

Speaker D:

Same old.

Speaker A:

You're already filtering.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I'm already.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's not where you start, Mac.

Speaker B:

It's where you end up.

Speaker B:

So go ahead, be human and then move to A higher perspective.

Speaker A:

As long as you keep forward, that's what's important.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker D:

What do we.

Speaker D:

What we're talking about one of the memes tonight about falling forward.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Failing.

Speaker A:

Failing forward.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Fail with purpose.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Yeah, let's talk about the memes.

Speaker A:

Yeah, come on, let's get into the memes.

Speaker D:

So, anyway, that's that.

Speaker D:

So we're just bringing it in.

Speaker D:

Thanks, guys.

Speaker D:

Those.

Speaker D:

That's great.

Speaker D:

Those are great perspectives.

Speaker D:

So.

Speaker D:

All right, Memes Tonight's episode is.

Speaker D:

Is entitled the Wisdom Nuggets.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

That we really try.

Speaker D:

Whether it's in our conversation here, you know, in the episode on the podcast, or in the other things that we might do, whether it's a blog post, whether it's a commentary, or whether it's a meme that we'll put out very regularly.

Speaker D:

And we have a.

Speaker D:

It's really fun how we collaborate on those little memes.

Speaker D:

And if you're following us at all, you're going to see them out there on our Facebook page.

Speaker D:

We push them out to Instagram, we push them out to X, you know, Twitter.

Speaker D:

And they're just, you know, we don't sit down with a purposeful intent.

Speaker D:

Let's see.

Speaker D:

I got to do a meme today.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

Let's see what's on.

Speaker D:

You know, what am I going to do?

Speaker D:

No, it's.

Speaker D:

It's.

Speaker D:

It's whatever strikes us.

Speaker D:

If something comes along that just moves our heart, something we're reading or something we heard or a conversation that we had with somebody, if there's a poignant little message in there, you know, we'll try to push a meme out by.

Speaker D:

Because maybe we're hoping that as you look at it, as you read it, as you ponder it, maybe something will click, maybe just meet you right where you're at at that moment, and whatever's going on in your life or somebody else that you can.

Speaker D:

That you can pass it on to, I'm not going through that right now.

Speaker D:

But, you know, my sister is.

Speaker D:

My brother is.

Speaker D:

My friend is my.

Speaker D:

You know, whatever.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

And it's just one of those little reminders.

Speaker D:

We like to think that they're wisdom nuggets, that.

Speaker D:

That if you do ponder them enough and they get a little pithy, and we try to do that on purpose.

Speaker D:

All right, that's okay.

Speaker D:

But.

Speaker D:

But there's.

Speaker D:

There's really a lot of depth there.

Speaker D:

And what we want to do tonight, we just thought we'd have some fun with this, that we sort of pick some of our favorite ones.

Speaker D:

If we could even do that.

Speaker D:

I don't even know that I can call them our favorite ones.

Speaker D:

We just had to limit it somehow because the episode is only so long.

Speaker D:

So we're just going to share, you know, some of these memes that we've.

Speaker D:

That we've done with you.

Speaker D:

And, you know, we'll go from, you know, we'll go from there.

Speaker D:

Let's see what we got.

Speaker D:

If I can find.

Speaker B:

You know, we live in a soundbite society, and people are looking for something simple, short, sweet to remind them.

Speaker B:

It's just like a jolt to the heart, like a paddle going on.

Speaker B:

They're giving you an electric shock.

Speaker B:

Oh, I forgot.

Speaker B:

Now I remember.

Speaker B:

And this little meme, this little idea which seems meaningless on the surface when you dig it down and you drill it down.

Speaker B:

Oh, there's great meat.

Speaker B:

There's great water and sustenance there.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

And we hope so.

Speaker D:

We really do.

Speaker B:

And if there isn't, that's okay.

Speaker B:

For somebody else, that water.

Speaker B:

For somebody else.

Speaker D:

Exactly, exactly.

Speaker D:

So let's.

Speaker D:

Do you want to start with one of these?

Speaker D:

Which one?

Speaker A:

How about that one right there?

Speaker D:

Okay, go for it.

Speaker A:

Celebrate the differences, covet the sameness.

Speaker D:

That's the headline, right?

Speaker D:

That's the tag lines up there.

Speaker D:

The tagline is.

Speaker A:

Yeah, give up the comparisons.

Speaker D:

Give up the comparisons.

Speaker D:

So celebrate the differences, covet the sameness.

Speaker D:

Give up the comparison.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I love this one.

Speaker A:

Because the way I would love for everyone to can it to be in relationship with one another is to look for ways to connect.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

That's the.

Speaker A:

The COVID the sameness.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

You're gonna.

Speaker A:

No matter how different you are, and the differences are beautiful.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

Because it'd be a very BO world if we all were the same.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

But unless we were all stupid.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

That would be awesome.

Speaker A:

Just kidding.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Let's ask.

Speaker D:

Let's ask your wife about that.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Right.

Speaker A:

No doubt.

Speaker A:

Let's not do that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But covet, covet.

Speaker A:

The same is, to me, is.

Speaker A:

Is it the way I.

Speaker A:

I read that is I'm looking for a way I can connect with you.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker A:

And I'm gonna find it because I'm looking for it.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And when I see things that are different, I'm going to celebrate those, you know, because.

Speaker A:

Because I think that's amazing.

Speaker A:

But I'm gonna, You know, when I find that connection, that's what, that's.

Speaker A:

That's how I can really feel comfortable with anybody that comes my way.

Speaker B:

This world is full of bridge builders like you, like me, like the Three of us sitting here, and there's more people out there.

Speaker B:

And when your mindset.

Speaker B:

People who are looking to build a bridge will find other bridge builders.

Speaker B:

People who are looking to judge will find reasons to be judgmental.

Speaker B:

And I'm saying what makes heaven on earth, It's.

Speaker B:

It's building the bridge.

Speaker B:

It's finding my brother or my sister who wants to play in the playground with me.

Speaker B:

With the three of us at a place, it certainly works a hell of a lot better than the judgment.

Speaker B:

We got to suspend our judgments.

Speaker B:

We're going around judging everybody as bad as wrong.

Speaker B:

Well, that's just tearing the world apart.

Speaker A:

You know, what I see too much of is if you flip this, what I see too much of is covet the differences, celebrate the sameness, Right?

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Isn't that what you're.

Speaker A:

You see too much of that?

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's rampant.

Speaker A:

I don't want to leave it at that.

Speaker A:

We want to celebrate the differences, covet the sameness.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

And I ran into this, you know, my personal life here just this week with.

Speaker D:

With a little bit of a conflict with an individual.

Speaker D:

And, you know, there's also this expectation that we, whether it's society that places it on us, whether it maybe be our religion or our faith walk or our tribe or even ourself, and really what's what we're told, and it's the struggle that says, wow, you know, that just isn't working right.

Speaker D:

That, and I have to make it right.

Speaker D:

Sometimes you can't, and sometimes it just doesn't get right.

Speaker D:

Now, how do you deal with that and how do you not feel guilty about it?

Speaker D:

Is an interesting walk, is an interesting contemplation about how when you do have a conflict with somebody and they're just so dang hard to love that you just.

Speaker D:

You just can't get there, you know, and we like to maybe default to where we want to, you know, point fingers or demeanor and that kind of stuff.

Speaker D:

But I'm not talking about that.

Speaker D:

I'm just talking about being okay with the fact that just.

Speaker D:

Just ain't working, man.

Speaker B:

You know, all roads are going to lead to you.

Speaker B:

You know, Alan Cohen once said something to the effect of, it's not the insult that bothers us, it's the part of ourselves that agrees with the insult.

Speaker B:

So somebody's pushing my buttons.

Speaker B:

I got some healing work to do.

Speaker B:

I've got some introspection to do to go, why am I so angry or upset or judgmental about this person?

Speaker B:

Quick, turn the judgment inside as opposed to outside of you and then grow.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker B:

Heal.

Speaker B:

Actually heal from some deep, deep wound.

Speaker B:

That person just was the actor that you.

Speaker B:

You hired to play a role to tick you off.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That is a very healthy way to look at things.

Speaker B:

I would love to say I live there all the time, but I may get an day.

Speaker D:

Oh, boy.

Speaker A:

So awesome.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

So celebrate the differences, covet the sameness, give up the comparisons.

Speaker D:

And, you know, these are out there on the site.

Speaker D:

Not all of them are yet, but they will.

Speaker B:

Before you go, you know, the Buddhists teach that comparison is a state of argument.

Speaker B:

An argument is a state of suffering.

Speaker B:

So if you peel that onion back and get to the roots, our own suffering is caused because we are not able to do what this meme is actually saying.

Speaker D:

Wow.

Speaker B:

I'm comparing your outsides to my insides, and I'm going suffer.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker D:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker D:

And Todd on it.

Speaker A:

I think.

Speaker A:

I think my mind's blown on the first one.

Speaker B:

You know, if I compared my outsides to the coach there.

Speaker B:

I better get back in the gym.

Speaker B:

Let's do it.

Speaker A:

I'm ready.

Speaker D:

Oh, let's see.

Speaker D:

I'm gonna find one in here.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

This is one of my.

Speaker D:

This is one I kind of like.

Speaker D:

I mean, we just did it recently, so that's why.

Speaker D:

Maybe a little bit tougher of mind, but.

Speaker D:

And I wish I could take credit for this.

Speaker D:

I can't.

Speaker D:

Brian McLaren coined this, so I won't go into the details about where I read it from and stuff like that, but I'm giving him Credit.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

Brian McLaren.

Speaker D:

If you haven't ever heard of him or you don't know him, Google him.

Speaker D:

All right?

Speaker D:

He's a great guy.

Speaker D:

And here's the meme.

Speaker D:

Try being a thermostat instead of a thermometer.

Speaker D:

And then the tagline is, control your energy efficiency.

Speaker D:

Try being a thermostat instead of a thermometer.

Speaker D:

And when I first read that, I was like, oh, that's brilliant.

Speaker D:

Because most of us are thermometers.

Speaker D:

We just take the temperature of whatever's going on around us.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

And react in whatever way, you know, that we do.

Speaker B:

Our lives have become effect rather than cause.

Speaker B:

So we give all the power away to what's going on in the external world and the way somebody behaves and the thing that they said.

Speaker B:

And now the effect is.

Speaker B:

I'm upset.

Speaker B:

What this meme is saying is, be the cause of your own reality.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Be.

Speaker B:

Be the one that creates the greater expression.

Speaker B:

Turns the heat up, if you want, or turns it down if you want, but quit giving all the power away.

Speaker B:

Be cause, not effect.

Speaker D:

Yes, yes.

Speaker A:

That's brilliant.

Speaker D:

You like that?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I don't even want to comment.

Speaker A:

I want to leave it with that.

Speaker A:

That is so.

Speaker A:

Because that is brilliant.

Speaker D:

That is good.

Speaker D:

And one of the reasons why I did this meme and picked up on what Brian was saying is because here we come into a very contentious political year in America.

Speaker D:

I don't know, again, you may be Canada and Mexico, you guys got your own thing going on, but I'm sure you can relate, right?

Speaker D:

But, you know, we're coming into a season here of a lot of anxiety, a lot of media, you know, stuff that's.

Speaker D:

I mean, a lot of this stuff.

Speaker D:

And if we're not careful, we're going to end up being thermometers.

Speaker D:

We're going to end up just reacting to the heat as it gets turned up.

Speaker D:

And that's.

Speaker D:

That's not the way to have the poise to be able to navigate it well.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker A:

Well, there's one thing I know for sure, because the tagline says, control your energy efficiency.

Speaker A:

It's much harder.

Speaker A:

Takes a lot more energy to be angry, right.

Speaker A:

And mad and to have those feelings than to just loving and kind and I mean, it's so much easier.

Speaker A:

So why not just choose the.

Speaker D:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

Well, here's the catch.

Speaker B:

That whole thing, we are the cause, whether we like it or not, whether we're conscious or not.

Speaker B:

And so if angry people are showing up in our field, guess what?

Speaker B:

We got an anger problem on the inside that we're attracting those people.

Speaker B:

You know, the world is living a whole bunch like a piece of driftwood, where a piece of driftwood subject to the wind and the waves of the ocean tossing us to and fro.

Speaker B:

And we need to find something to anchor to, something to ground to.

Speaker B:

To keep our center.

Speaker B:

When the angry people show up, when the frustrated people, when the mean people show up, I'm so connected to something greater that I'm not going to go with the wind and the waves.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker B:

Of the external reality.

Speaker B:

I'm going to be the veritable presence of the Christ, is what I would say.

Speaker A:

And here's where you elevate yourself when you're able to, despite being who you are, to change the mood of the area you're in, which we'll have those people there.

Speaker A:

And you might just be able to bring the temperature down just by being you.

Speaker A:

Which leads us to our next meme.

Speaker B:

What a segue.

Speaker A:

How do you like that?

Speaker A:

That's the coach with the practice plan.

Speaker B:

Move along, move along.

Speaker A:

No seconds are wasted.

Speaker A:

Here we go.

Speaker A:

You ready?

Speaker A:

So here's the next one.

Speaker A:

The world constantly tries to make you not you.

Speaker A:

Sometimes you just have to throw down the gauntlet.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

So think about this.

Speaker A:

The.

Speaker A:

The world right now especially is trying to make us be other people.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker A:

But.

Speaker A:

And this is going to sound like a cliche, but.

Speaker A:

But it's so true.

Speaker A:

You are the only you that will ever exist.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And why hold that like, why hold that back from people?

Speaker A:

Like, people need to experience you as you are.

Speaker B:

The Gospel of Thomas, which is one of those gnostic gospels that got kicked out because it didn't fit an agenda, but it says basically, bring forth that which is within you and it will give you life.

Speaker B:

And if you don't bring it forth, it's going to destroy you.

Speaker D:

Harbor.

Speaker D:

Harbor.

Speaker D:

Some stuff.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's saying, take control.

Speaker B:

Be yourself.

Speaker B:

Be fully you.

Speaker B:

Be the God essence that's chosen to express at the point of view or you're dying, period.

Speaker D:

Well, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on out there about, you know, you know, you are enough and, you know, love yourself and all of those are good concepts.

Speaker D:

Don't get me wrong.

Speaker D:

I'm.

Speaker D:

You know, a lot of people out there are helping people in those realms.

Speaker D:

But I think what, you know, what you just heard the rev say, what you heard Coach Stu say, that we have the ability innately to control this.

Speaker D:

All right?

Speaker D:

That, you know, there is a beautiful essence within each one of us that we can't afford to let get tamped down, that we can let get afford to get conformed to the norm or to the tribe or to whatever culture.

Speaker D:

I mean, it's okay to be part of all those things, but the minute that's your identity and that's who you are, then you're really not you anymore.

Speaker A:

That's true.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know, your individuality is necessary, not just for your own expression, but for the planet.

Speaker B:

You're not an accident.

Speaker B:

And when you shut it down, you're saying God doing business as me is not good enough.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker B:

So let me just fit somebody else's mold and fit into their box.

Speaker B:

And you're just actually telling the universe you create junk.

Speaker B:

No, no, no.

Speaker B:

God doesn't create junk.

Speaker B:

God creates necessary components to make the world fantastic.

Speaker A:

And I know that I.

Speaker A:

When I was younger, I was trying to be the me that other.

Speaker A:

I felt other people wanted me to be.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

And I thought that was just something that was true when I was younger.

Speaker A:

But guess what?

Speaker A:

Like this happens with adults.

Speaker A:

It doesn't matter the age or the decade.

Speaker A:

But I have to end with something fun.

Speaker A:

Then we go to the next meme.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

So you.

Speaker A:

You can't talk about this meme without a Dr.

Speaker A:

Seuss quote.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

You ready?

Speaker A:

Today you are you.

Speaker A:

That is truer than true.

Speaker A:

There is no one alive who is.

Speaker A:

You are than you.

Speaker D:

I love Dr.

Speaker D:

Seuss newer than you.

Speaker D:

So I think that might be a good place right there to just sort of exhale into that.

Speaker D:

You were than you.

Speaker D:

Not nobody.

Speaker D:

Nobody's.

Speaker D:

You were than you.

Speaker D:

And you are a beautiful.

Speaker D:

What it's to say in the very beginning of the podcast.

Speaker A:

Beautiful, exotic cocktail.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker D:

And we.

Speaker D:

And we can't.

Speaker D:

We.

Speaker D:

We got to give credit where credit's due there, too.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

We love that saying, and we've said it for years.

Speaker D:

But we heard him say it first.

Speaker D:

Rob Bell.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Rob Bell said it first.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

We've seen him several times.

Speaker B:

I'm thinking of that scene from the Help.

Speaker B:

So we got the movie guy across from me here.

Speaker B:

But there's that scene when the.

Speaker B:

The woman is talking to the kid, saying, you is beautiful, you is necessary, you is important, you is intelligent.

Speaker B:

Everybody needs to hear that.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker A:

You.

Speaker B:

The you that God created is.

Speaker B:

Is necessary and worthy and full of.

Speaker B:

Full of light and love.

Speaker B:

And absolutely don't waste one ounce of your breath, your thought, your hearts, your being, your body to make this world an amazing place.

Speaker A:

So two quick thoughts with that, because that.

Speaker A:

That is an amazing.

Speaker A:

That's amazing, right?

Speaker A:

Is one, be that person that says that to somebody.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker A:

Don't just keep it in your head or in your mind or.

Speaker A:

I thought it of somebody.

Speaker A:

And I'm not going to say it.

Speaker A:

I'm holding it back.

Speaker A:

Like, unintentionally, probably, but don't, like, say it.

Speaker A:

And secondly, if you're not having anybody say it to you, look in the mirror and say it to yourself.

Speaker D:

Right?

Speaker A:

Well, I mean, why not?

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Or replay this podcast episode over and over again.

Speaker B:

Because why you're looking right in front of your mirror.

Speaker B:

Stand there naked with the three rovers.

Speaker D:

I didn't say that.

Speaker B:

Now, I love you, man uses you.

Speaker D:

All right, we're gonna leave you with being.

Speaker B:

Cause it's being caught.

Speaker B:

Sorry, Mac.

Speaker B:

It's.

Speaker B:

You gotta be the cause of a new reality for the world and not the effect of the world.

Speaker A:

Oh, there you go.

Speaker B:

All right, I'll show you.

Speaker A:

There's a new me, a new meme.

Speaker D:

I think it's all good.

Speaker D:

It's all good.

Speaker D:

We love this.

Speaker D:

This is so fun.

Speaker D:

So take that and we'll be right back.

Speaker D:

Hang on a sec.

Speaker C:

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Speaker C:

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Speaker C:

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Speaker C:

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Speaker C:

Now, let's get back to Going rogue.

Speaker D:

All right, welcome back to Going Rogue and our walk through our memes.

Speaker D:

And hopefully you're getting some wisdom nuggets out of all this because, you know, we titled entitled, you know, with wisdom in the title.

Speaker D:

Because, you know, at the core of it, I think you can find an attitude of the mind and an attitude of the heart that helps you become more wise.

Speaker D:

If you'll ponder something now, you're not going to relate to every one of these.

Speaker D:

We get that.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

I mean, you know, but at the same time, if it's not these, then what medium do you use to help you stimulate, you know, those kinds of perspectives that help you make better decisions, that you become more wise over and able to navigate life a little bit better.

Speaker D:

So hopefully we're adding to that list for you.

Speaker B:

Just little tools you keep in your toolbox, and they're at the edge of your mind, the edge of your life, and you can pull them out when you need them.

Speaker B:

Sometimes you're not going to need a screwdriver.

Speaker B:

You need a wrench.

Speaker B:

You know, just find the tools and keep them close.

Speaker D:

Absolutely.

Speaker D:

And there's.

Speaker D:

I think I.

Speaker D:

I do have a meme in there somewhere in the whole mix of the hundreds that I've done that said, know the difference when you need a wrench or a, you know, or the sledgehammer, you know.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker D:

Also know which.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

The right tool to use.

Speaker D:

But I digress.

Speaker B:

You know, if the only tool you've got is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Speaker D:

That's exactly.

Speaker D:

That's right.

Speaker D:

So, all right.

Speaker D:

So here we go.

Speaker D:

Here's.

Speaker D:

Here's one of my favorites.

Speaker D:

This is one of my favorites.

Speaker D:

Here's what it says.

Speaker D:

Unzip your fly.

Speaker D:

Go ahead.

Speaker D:

I'm waiting.

Speaker D:

Go ahead.

Speaker D:

Go.

Speaker D:

Just follow me.

Speaker D:

Go ahead, unzip your fly.

Speaker D:

Now resist the temptation to zip it up.

Speaker D:

Think with that for a little second.

Speaker D:

Then here's the tagline.

Speaker D:

Welcome to the other side.

Speaker B:

Let it all hang out, baby.

Speaker B:

Everything you got.

Speaker B:

Let it all hang out.

Speaker D:

There it is.

Speaker D:

Okay?

Speaker D:

This.

Speaker D:

Just think about the vulnerability, especially guys.

Speaker D:

More than girls.

Speaker D:

I.

Speaker D:

Women and females.

Speaker D:

I understand this, okay?

Speaker D:

But you know, you peel back the onion here a little bit, gang, I think, you know, you're smart enough, you get it, all right?

Speaker D:

I don't really have to walk you down through with my hand, but when you unzip your norm, when you unzip your covering, when you unzip that thing that hides, you know, you.

Speaker D:

You know you're vulnerable, you open yourself up in a way that five seconds before, when you're.

Speaker D:

When it was zipped up that you weren't.

Speaker D:

So what does that do for you again?

Speaker D:

Do you have an immediate thing that says, oh, my gosh, my flies open, or are you willing to sit with that a little bit and go to the.

Speaker D:

What we'll call the other side of your thinking?

Speaker D:

The other side of the norm, the other side of the tracks.

Speaker D:

The other side.

Speaker D:

That's a journey that we encourage everybody to take.

Speaker A:

What I think about where the growth occurs for me is when somebody else points it out.

Speaker B:

Oh, like I may.

Speaker A:

I may see it and think, okay, yeah, this is what I want right now.

Speaker A:

I'm here.

Speaker A:

And then someone points it out, like, oh, like I.

Speaker A:

I've been noticed.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

We see you.

Speaker A:

We see you.

Speaker A:

Like, what do you do then?

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That's where.

Speaker A:

That's where the real growth occurs.

Speaker B:

And the zip up isn't because somebody saw me.

Speaker B:

It's because I'm afraid of what they're going to see.

Speaker B:

So it's my own fear.

Speaker B:

You know, there's.

Speaker B:

There are tribes in the African continent that greet each other with the greeting.

Speaker B:

They don't say, hello, how you doing?

Speaker B:

How are you?

Speaker B:

They say, I am here to be seen.

Speaker B:

And the response is, I see you and I am here.

Speaker A:

Wow, this sounds just like Avatar, the movie.

Speaker D:

That's right.

Speaker A:

I see you.

Speaker A:

That's how they greet each other in that movie.

Speaker A:

And I always love that because it's exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Well, it's a world that's authentic.

Speaker B:

We kind of live in a fallacy world.

Speaker B:

It's a fake world.

Speaker B:

It's this.

Speaker B:

This movie that we've created of what we think other people can handle about us.

Speaker D:

Oh, wow.

Speaker D:

There's insight right there.

Speaker D:

That's beautiful.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I like it.

Speaker D:

So that's awesome.

Speaker D:

We're challenging you, gang.

Speaker D:

Go ahead.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Even if you want to just do it in the comfort of your Own bedroom or your own living room?

Speaker D:

Just.

Speaker A:

Well, you gotta get.

Speaker A:

You got to get out there.

Speaker D:

Well, that's.

Speaker D:

That's true, too.

Speaker D:

I agree with that.

Speaker A:

You could start there.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Look in a mirror again.

Speaker A:

We're back to the mirror.

Speaker A:

Look back in the mirror and make sure you're okay.

Speaker A:

And then walk outside the room and strut it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I gotta be me.

Speaker D:

I gotta be me.

Speaker D:

Me.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

I mean, think about it with the white coat.

Speaker A:

One thing I've learned over the years is if you look like you know what you're doing and you're supposed to be doing it, you're supposed to be there, nobody questions you.

Speaker B:

Yep.

Speaker A:

Right, right, right.

Speaker B:

Confidence in yourself exudes.

Speaker A:

I walked in so many places I wasn't supposed to be, but I looked like I was supposed to be there and acted like it, and they just let me go.

Speaker B:

Wedding crasher.

Speaker A:

There we go.

Speaker A:

I am the ultimate wedding crasher.

Speaker A:

I used to crash weddings with my mom.

Speaker A:

Story for another episode.

Speaker A:

Funny enough.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Oh, you're gonna pull up a stew meme.

Speaker D:

How about a student coach stew meme?

Speaker A:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker D:

There it is.

Speaker D:

Go ahead.

Speaker A:

I'm gonna read my own meme.

Speaker A:

All right, man, here we go.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

If we.

Speaker A:

If we learn from our mistakes, why are we always so afraid of making them?

Speaker D:

There's a mic drop.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I don't want to learn anymore.

Speaker B:

I've learned enough.

Speaker D:

You know, this reminds me of what you just said.

Speaker D:

What do you think this reminds me of?

Speaker A:

What's that?

Speaker D:

Your mom.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

You got to tell that story.

Speaker A:

Okay, so my, My.

Speaker A:

Okay, quick story.

Speaker A:

My mom is Sicilian, Italian, right?

Speaker A:

Youngest of nine.

Speaker A:

Huge family, right?

Speaker A:

Does a lot of reading.

Speaker A:

There was a friend of mine that wrote a book, and my wife and myself and my daughter were in the book.

Speaker A:

It was a personal growth book.

Speaker A:

So I thought, my mom's a big reader.

Speaker A:

I'm going to send her this book.

Speaker A:

You know, how awesome.

Speaker A:

And so I sent her the book.

Speaker A:

She calls me up and says, what is this?

Speaker A:

I said, this is the book that I told you about.

Speaker A:

My friend wrote it.

Speaker A:

I helped her, and we're in it.

Speaker A:

Like, read it.

Speaker A:

I'm chapter five, you know?

Speaker A:

And she's like, but what's this book about?

Speaker A:

I'm like, you know, it's just kind of like personal growth.

Speaker A:

And she's like, johnny.

Speaker A:

Because I'm not just Coach Stu, Johnny.

Speaker A:

I like my issues just the way they are, and I'm comfortable with my issues.

Speaker A:

I sat there and I was like, huh?

Speaker A:

Like, what?

Speaker A:

I Don't have any response to that.

Speaker A:

Like, that's just.

Speaker A:

That's just who my mom is.

Speaker D:

Yeah, there it is.

Speaker A:

She likes her issues just the way.

Speaker B:

They are and how authentic of her.

Speaker B:

I mean, she's honest.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

So anyway, I know you think of that just in a moment right there.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that was.

Speaker A:

That was cool.

Speaker A:

But, yeah, so if we learn from our mistakes, Mac, why are.

Speaker A:

If you learn from your mistakes, why are you so afraid to make them?

Speaker A:

Come on, man.

Speaker D:

Because a lot of.

Speaker D:

Most of the time, they're painful in the beginning.

Speaker A:

Okay, Go back to the beginning.

Speaker D:

Learn, Learn.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

That means I have to learn to react to it better.

Speaker D:

All right?

Speaker D:

It challenges me.

Speaker D:

It calls me out when I don't react.

Speaker D:

You know, here's what I thought this week.

Speaker D:

I'll kind of give you some framework, you know, And I told you earlier that I was kind of having this challenge this week with a particular individual.

Speaker D:

And one of my first reactions now, I didn't do this.

Speaker D:

I didn't do it.

Speaker D:

Okay?

Speaker D:

So I'm just telling you right now, that's progress.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker D:

I didn't do this.

Speaker D:

But here was what I thought.

Speaker D:

Really.

Speaker D:

Well, why did you let me affect you that way?

Speaker D:

It was kind of my internal mind going, well, if you have a problem with that, it's really kind of your problem, not my problem.

Speaker D:

You know, I mean, now, I didn't.

Speaker D:

I wasn't about to pull away from all responsibility in the.

Speaker D:

In the.

Speaker D:

In the conversation, but at the same time, it was really more about, again, you know, what do we need to learn, as Rev was already talking about earlier, in order to grow through the experience.

Speaker D:

I think that's really what we're.

Speaker B:

You know, when I began to really grow, because I was pretty stagnant for a lot of my life, is when I made peace with failure.

Speaker B:

When I realized that failure was an exciting, fun adventure and that I was never going to get better at at playing the piano, at singing, at sports.

Speaker B:

I was never going to get better if I didn't fail.

Speaker B:

So I could stay mediocre.

Speaker B:

I could be a mediocre baseball player, or I could fail, strike out, and learn something, and then the next time up the bat, maybe I'll get it to first base.

Speaker B:

Maybe a home run is in my future.

Speaker D:

There you go.

Speaker B:

But I had to make peace with the failures.

Speaker B:

They're not bad things.

Speaker B:

They're not terrible things.

Speaker B:

They're necessary things.

Speaker B:

If we're growing.

Speaker A:

So true.

Speaker D:

What do you tell your.

Speaker D:

What do you tell your wrestlers?

Speaker A:

You know, it's Interesting.

Speaker A:

When you were just talking, Rev, we have a sign in our room that reads, in our wrestling room that reads 10, 80, 10.

Speaker A:

Have you ever seen this concept?

Speaker A:

Okay, so the 80, the.

Speaker A:

The 10 on the left are the people that just do not care to do life or do wrestling.

Speaker A:

In our case, do sports any better?

Speaker A:

They're, like, good enough.

Speaker A:

They're just good.

Speaker A:

Yeah, good.

Speaker A:

The 80% are mediocre.

Speaker A:

They're like, okay, like, I'm happy worthwhere I'm at.

Speaker A:

I have some success.

Speaker A:

The 10% on the right are the ones that are, like, they are pushing and challenging themselves, and they're failing and growing and failing and growing.

Speaker A:

So we typically have the majority of our team in the 80, and they're happy being there.

Speaker A:

And it's always a challenge to get them to move into the 10 on the right, where they're really challenging and growing because they have to fail.

Speaker A:

To your point, Rev, they have to fail.

Speaker A:

They have to go out there, they have to lose.

Speaker A:

They have to lose a match to be able to get better.

Speaker A:

And of course, we're not trying to do that, but when it happens, it allows us to help them to learn and grow.

Speaker D:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

You can actually get to the point where you celebrate the failure, you celebrate the mistake, and then not only do you grow, but as you mentioned earlier, everybody's watching you, man.

Speaker B:

They're getting better.

Speaker B:

I'm going to go ahead and fail, too, and we're going to celebrate it and have a wonderful party that we all messed up and we're doing it better tomorrow.

Speaker D:

There we are.

Speaker D:

Because it's the human condition for the most part.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

Try going through life thinking you're not.

Speaker B:

Well, all these memes tie together.

Speaker B:

If I fail publicly, I've had to unzip.

Speaker B:

I have to be completely out there for the world to see I didn't measure up.

Speaker A:

Here's.

Speaker A:

Here's the thing when you do that, and what I've learned in some of the smaller groups that.

Speaker A:

That I've led is when you share that there is at minimum three other people, they're like, I same thing.

Speaker A:

I did the same thing.

Speaker A:

I had the same thought, whatever it is.

Speaker A:

I didn't know anybody else did the same thing and had the same thought until you spoke up.

Speaker A:

So by you having the courage to do that, to unzip and to just.

Speaker B:

Let permission to become more of themselves.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

You know, Well, I think we're speaking here to something.

Speaker D:

We've started, a theme that we started in the very beginning of the podcast.

Speaker D:

You Know, we don't have that many episodes that.

Speaker D:

But it's really.

Speaker D:

A lot of it is about you're not alone.

Speaker D:

You're not.

Speaker D:

Some of these thoughts that you might have or these attitudes or these experiences.

Speaker D:

You know, you're not going through life all by yourself.

Speaker D:

And we want to offer whatever encouragement we can and support and just maybe it's just a been there, done that too, gang.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

And just give you the sense of comfort knowing that you're not.

Speaker B:

Thank God you're the first one who had the guts to just put it out there on the table.

Speaker D:

Yeah, I can relate.

Speaker D:

Right?

Speaker D:

Unzip.

Speaker D:

Just unzip.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Find your people, find your tribe.

Speaker A:

You know, we talk about our tribe.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Oh, we got.

Speaker D:

Here we go.

Speaker D:

Let's just do this last one we have.

Speaker D:

There it is.

Speaker A:

Have that.

Speaker D:

Let's try that one.

Speaker D:

Go ahead, Rev.

Speaker D:

What is.

Speaker D:

What do we got here?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I gotta put my glasses on.

Speaker B:

Your vibe will attract your tribe.

Speaker A:

Oh, I love that.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Mostly because it rhymes, but it's also cool phrase.

Speaker D:

So.

Speaker D:

So what do you.

Speaker D:

I think the first thing that comes to me in this is what is your vibe?

Speaker D:

Right?

Speaker D:

What is the vibe that you put out?

Speaker D:

You know, I remember here in Atlanta years and years and years ago.

Speaker D:

We've talked about this many times over the years.

Speaker D:

There's a big mega church here in Atlanta.

Speaker D:

And.

Speaker D:

And the guy that.

Speaker D:

That started it, he's very well known here.

Speaker D:

His name's Andy Stanley.

Speaker D:

You know, years ago, he was in front of some middle schoolers, I think it was.

Speaker D:

Or young people anyway.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

And this was what he posed to them.

Speaker D:

He said, are you the kind of person that you're looking for?

Speaker D:

Is looking for.

Speaker D:

I love that because that's all about your vibe.

Speaker D:

You know, if.

Speaker D:

If.

Speaker D:

If you want to attract a certain person or a certain, you know, scenario or whatever it might be.

Speaker D:

Do you even realize how important the vibe that you're putting out is in that equation?

Speaker B:

That's back to the first meme we did.

Speaker B:

You're the cause of your reality.

Speaker B:

You are the cause of your experience.

Speaker B:

So I always like to say angry people are going to attract angry people.

Speaker B:

Happy, joyous people looking for something positive are going to attract those same kinds of people.

Speaker D:

Right?

Speaker A:

So that's their tribe.

Speaker A:

Y.

Speaker A:

I mean, it is their tribe.

Speaker A:

And if they're okay with that, they're okay with that.

Speaker A:

But what I always looked for was this.

Speaker A:

There's been people I've met in my life that I didn't know yet, but I met Them or I saw them, and.

Speaker A:

And I would say to myself, I don't know what it is, but I got to be around that person.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And I always aspire to try to be that person for others.

Speaker A:

Like, I don't know what it is.

Speaker A:

I don't know you yet.

Speaker A:

I don't even know your name, but there's something about you that.

Speaker A:

It's the vibe, right.

Speaker A:

It's like, I just got to be.

Speaker B:

Around, you know, back to the movie guy, it's Harry met Sally and sitting at the table saying, I want what she's having.

Speaker D:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

That's funny, man.

Speaker B:

I like what I see.

Speaker B:

I watch more of that in my life.

Speaker D:

Exactly.

Speaker D:

Oh, for sure.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

You know, this.

Speaker D:

This is the law of attraction.

Speaker D:

This is.

Speaker D:

There's all kinds of different ways you can talk about this meme.

Speaker A:

Let me.

Speaker A:

Let me bring it to.

Speaker A:

Let me bring it to, like, real life scenarios.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

You might be somebody who is in.

Speaker A:

Is looking for a relationship.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And you might be somebody that said, man, I always.

Speaker A:

I always pick the wrong guy or girl or whomever.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker B:

Why.

Speaker A:

Why is that?

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker A:

Maybe.

Speaker A:

Maybe that's.

Speaker A:

I mean, you're the one that's the consistent, you know, entity in that relationship.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

You're always the one there.

Speaker A:

So maybe your vibe has to change.

Speaker A:

If you want something different, be the.

Speaker B:

Kind of person you want to attract.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

What was that you said about the.

Speaker A:

Yeah, say that again.

Speaker D:

You know, are you the kind of person the person you're looking for is looking for?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

There you go.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker B:

Reminds me of Groucho Marx and once said, I wouldn't belong to any club that would have me.

Speaker B:

You know, the reality is.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you've got to be that vibration.

Speaker B:

You got to be that.

Speaker B:

That energy field that's going to bring the person you want.

Speaker B:

If you want kindness, be kinder.

Speaker D:

Right.

Speaker D:

Well, and we can even.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker D:

And we can even take this beyond tribe to just life in general.

Speaker D:

Just like Rev said, you know, you want goodness, you want love, you want, you know, comfort, you want, you know, joy.

Speaker D:

You know, all of that gets, you know, affected by your particular vibe.

Speaker D:

You know, are you embracing, Are you speaking it?

Speaker D:

Are you intending for it?

Speaker D:

Have you set yourself up to be able to attract it?

Speaker D:

So.

Speaker B:

So are you saying that the three of us, we were relative strangers 10 years ago, we've attracted each other or like mind, like consciousness, like heart, like intention?

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Yes.

Speaker D:

And I'm sure you guys have got.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I'm here.

Speaker B:

You're responsible for me being here at this table.

Speaker B:

Thanks for the invitation.

Speaker B:

I appreciate it.

Speaker D:

Well, yeah, it was the right thing.

Speaker D:

The universe, man.

Speaker D:

It was.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker D:

You know, I want to get your.

Speaker B:

Mom on the podcast.

Speaker A:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker A:

That would have been an awesome thing.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Anymore.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that would have been an awesome thing.

Speaker A:

So I love this.

Speaker A:

This is a great one.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

So, so fun today, gang.

Speaker D:

And, you know, we've got a bunch of them.

Speaker A:

Oh, my gosh, we have so many out there.

Speaker D:

I mean, yeah, we, you know, we put them out on a regular basis, so.

Speaker A:

So listen, check it out.

Speaker A:

Mac and Rev.

Speaker A:

So I'm sure there's people out there that are thinking of their own memes.

Speaker A:

Send them to us.

Speaker B:

We want to hear.

Speaker A:

We'll put them together in a really cool.

Speaker D:

Max.

Speaker A:

Great at this.

Speaker A:

In a really cool format.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we'll post them out there.

Speaker D:

Sure.

Speaker A:

Undergoing rogue.

Speaker B:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

You know, we'll give you credit for it.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker D:

Absolutely.

Speaker A:

I mean, great.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Send them.

Speaker A:

Send them to us through social media, Facebook, Instagram, wherever.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Comments.

Speaker A:

Our.

Speaker A:

Our website.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Comment on our website.

Speaker D:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And give me permission to use them in a sermon just in case.

Speaker B:

I might want to get those good ones.

Speaker B:

I know.

Speaker A:

We hope you do.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker D:

Yeah, we can take our.

Speaker D:

We can take our logo off of there.

Speaker D:

You can use them if you want.

Speaker D:

No problem.

Speaker D:

Okay.

Speaker D:

So, you know, with that, we appreciate you listening.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

We just want to thank you all for joining us and being part of this rogue nation and letting us just go outside the box, go to the inside edge and just try some new ideas on.

Speaker B:

We welcome you to Unzip.

Speaker B:

As we unzip, let it all hang out and know that together we're going to make this world a more wonderful, beautiful place just because we're willing to be fully authentic.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

Speaker B:

I hope you'll.

Speaker B:

You'll go to the cafe and spend some time there.

Speaker B:

I hope you will keep listening in and go tell 100,000 people about what's going on in the Rogue nation.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker A:

And so on and so on and so on and so.

Speaker D:

Thanks a bunch, gang.

Speaker D:

All right, guys.

Speaker D:

Enjoyed it tonight.

Speaker D:

It's always good fun.

Speaker D:

Thank you much.

Speaker D:

All right, take care.

Speaker C:

Wow.

Speaker C:

You made it and can now unbuckle.

Speaker C:

Thanks for listening to the Wisdom Nuggets, where we had fun sharing some of our pithy meme sayings in the hope that you've got some worthwhile nuggets of wisdom to help you see things differently.

Speaker C:

Remember to visit the website at www.

Speaker C:

Www.gorogue.life for lots of follow up information.

Speaker C:

See the show notes for any links to episode content and join us in the ongoing cafe conversation where every week we post some thought provoking questions for your own roguish conversations.

Speaker C:

Oh, and of course, tell everyone you know about us and like, follow and engage.

Speaker C:

Be sure to tune in next week as Mac unleashes is another unthinkable conversation, and that is if you dare.

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The WizeGuys
Stepping Over the Line
Do you ever find yourself feeling restless, dissatisfied, or curious about what lies beyond? Are you someone who questions established norms, strives to embrace your individuality, and craves an authentic existence? Welcome to The WizeGuys, a thought-provoking podcast hosted by Larry McDonald, a seasoned visionary, spiritual mentor, and unapologetic trailblazer. Join us as we explore the unconventional and challenge the conventional in religion, culture, philosophy and their impact on your everyday life.

Larry and a diverse team of free-thinkers and special guests, such as The Rev, Coach Stu, and the Fierce Mystic Sorceress, will unveil and dissect dogmas, doctrines, and divisions that often hinder or distort spirituality and society. Our perspective is that everything has a spiritual dimension, and we'll apply this perspective to a wide range of societal norms and practices, providing alternative viewpoints to the mainstream narrative.

Prepare to be inspired and encouraged to see the world differently as we venture to the frontier of the unconventional and beyond. Join us on this journey to expand your horizons and broaden your perspectives. Strap in and get ready to Step Over the Line!

About your hosts

Larry McDonald

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Mac is a seasoned visionary, spiritual mentor, and unapologetic maverick. His experience spans business, religion, academia, non-profit, and a host of foreign and domestic team-building and leadership development efforts. His favorite saying is, "Strap in!", as he loves to engage in thought-provoking conversations to evoke "ah-ha" moments that transcend the informational and welcome the inspirational. He's got four kids, five grandkids, four stepkids, loves boating, the Red Wings, and pierogies.

He'd love to hear from you at ljmcdonald19@gmail.com

John (Stu) Stulak

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Stu is a wrestling coach, competitive powerlifter, spiritual Jedi, movie-lover, avid book reader, proud husband/father, and passionate about healthy living & God. And let's not forget that he'll keep Mac and The Rev from straying too far afield as he applies a nuanced touch to the conversation. You'll love him...

Feel free to contact Stu at stu@insideedge.life